Immigration

ImWaitingForTheDay

Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
You're correct, but not in the way that you think.

What is the first cause of such an arrangement?
Welfare isn't the problem. It's perception. Republican ideology has created a giant hypocrisy space for them to hate welfare while receiving it in the form of farm "subsidies" (welfare by any other name) and disproportionate "tax cuts" (yet another kind of welfare) on passive income.

In the final resolution, it's not even welfare they despise. It's YOUR welfare they cannot countenance. THEIR welfare was "hard earned." Doing corporate America's bidding is hard work. Just look at the damage done to the GOP's kneecaps.
 
Today's welfare family consists of one mother and several children of different unwed fathers .
You never know the real circumstances for these people. They could be all different. Picture the perfect America family. One day dad does something real bad and goes to prison. Only one dad and one kid and now they are in the welfare system because mom has no skills accept being a stay at home mom. Dad screws it all up and now they are on welfare.
 

ImWaitingForTheDay

Annoy a conservative....Think for yourself
Today's welfare family consists of one mother and several children of different unwed fathers .
Isn't it funny that corporations are people - and while welfare for living-breathing people is bad, welfare for corporations is good?

The welfare that corporate people take from taxpayers is almost twice what social welfare programs cost: $92 billion vs. $59 billion.

How to get Baba to understand that 1) he pays for corporate welfare, and that 2) corporate welfare costs him almost twice what social welfare costs him?
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Isn't it funny that corporations are people - and while welfare for living-breathing people is bad, welfare for corporations is good?

The welfare that corporate people take from taxpayers is almost twice what social welfare programs cost: $92 billion vs. $59 billion.

How to get Baba to understand that 1) he pays for corporate welfare, and that 2) corporate welfare costs him almost twice what social welfare costs him?
Why don't you understand, all welfare should be nearly eliminated.
 

BrownArmy

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Why don't you understand, all welfare should be nearly eliminated.

Once again, we agree.

Yet, corporate welfare dwarfs citizen welfare.

The money we spent on the second Iraq war ($2,000,000,000,000-and climbing; the 'post' war costs will likely bring that number to 4-5 TRILLION...) would have been much better spent on infrastructure repairs in our own nation.

Exxon-Mobil posted something like $42,000,000,000 in profit last year, and yet we supply them with 'tax-breaks'.

EXXON-MOBIL is on welfare !!!!

Yes, absolutely, let's reduce 'welfare' all around.

(If I, as a citizen, was EXXON, I would be approved for a $*,000,000,000 loan for a house...and I'd never have to pay the loan back, no matter what...even if I default, even if I blow up the entire neighborhood I live in, don't worry about it...)
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Isn't it funny that corporations are people - and while welfare for living-breathing people is bad, welfare for corporations is good?

The welfare that corporate people take from taxpayers is almost twice what social welfare programs cost: $92 billion vs. $59 billion.

How to get Baba to understand that 1) he pays for corporate welfare, and that 2) corporate welfare costs him almost twice what social welfare costs him?
How come you never mentioned all the bribes given to members of Congress so they vote for the corporate welfare ?
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
http://www.cis.org/cadman/faux-priv...-take-judicial-hit-public-right-know-prevails
First Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston
The origins of the case stem from a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by a New Hampshire newspaper, the Union Leader, asking ICE to provide the names of alien criminals arrested during an enforcement operation, along with the details surrounding their offenses. ICE, typically, refused, citing those aliens' "privacy rights" even though, as I have observed before, such rights don't exist under the federal Privacy Act (PA){— which limits federal privacy protections to "U.S. persons", who are defined as United States citizens and resident aliens. Nonimmigrants and illegal aliens are outside the scope of federal privacy law. }— something even the most wet-behind-the-ears government attorney must know. The Union Leader filed suit and lost at the federal court level (a classic example of judicial misinterpretation of both the FOIA and PA statutes). They then appealed to the federal First Circuit Court of Appeals.
The First Circuit has now ruled, and directed ICE to reveal the names and crimes of the aliens who were arrested .
But whatever the logic, the outcome is appropriate and should be welcomed, not just by media outlets, but also by the public at large and groups at both ends of the immigration advocacy spectrum, because it helps to pierce the fog that this administration has dropped over government immigration operations.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Silicon Valley Company Caught Paying Foreign Workers $1.21/Hr After $200M Quarter
A Silicon Valley tech company that reportedly made $200 million last quarter was importing foreign workers from India and paying them $1.21 an hour.
According to the Labor Department, "about eight employees of Fremont-based Electronics For Imaging [EFI] were flown in from India and worked 120-hour weeks to help with the installation of computers at the company's headquarters." NBC Bay Area noted that "the employees were paid their regular hourly wage in Indian rupees, which translated to $1.21."

EFI claimed it "unintentionally overlooked laws that require even foreign employees to be paid based on local US standards." The company reportedly must pay "$40,000 in back wages to the employees" and was fined $3,500.

Even though there is a surplus of American high-tech workers, high-tech companies continue to clamor for more guest-worker visas to lower the wages of their workers. Companies like Microsoft have lobbied for massive increases in foreign workers even while laying off 18,000 American workers.



 

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Silicon Valley Company Caught Paying Foreign Workers $1.21/Hr After $200M Quarter
A Silicon Valley tech company that reportedly made $200 million last quarter was importing foreign workers from India and paying them $1.21 an hour.

According to the Labor Department, "about eight employees of Fremont-based Electronics For Imaging [EFI] were flown in from India and worked 120-hour weeks to help with the installation of computers at the company's headquarters." NBC Bay Area noted that "the employees were paid their regular hourly wage in Indian rupees, which translated to $1.21."

EFI claimed it "unintentionally overlooked laws that require even foreign employees to be paid based on local US standards." The company reportedly must pay "$40,000 in back wages to the employees" and was fined $3,500.

Even though there is a surplus of American high-tech workers, high-tech companies continue to clamor for more guest-worker visas to lower the wages of their workers. Companies like Microsoft have lobbied for massive increases in foreign workers even while laying off 18,000 American workers.



YOU can thank your republican friends for this as they CALLED for guest workers from INDIA to come to the USA and help the tech industry.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/house-...400000-low-skilled-foreign-work-visas/166522/

YOUR republican idea of helping the american workers.

TOS.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
And after they leave the border & settle somewhere ?
Why the health system { financial & physically } will collapse .
Expect very long wait time to see any doctor , you can also expect the gov't to come to you to pay for all the free care .
No matter what the outcome , it is the working middle class who will get hurt .
 

oldngray

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And after they leave the border & settle somewhere ?
Why the health system { financial & physically } will collapse .
Expect very long wait time to see any doctor , you can also expect the gov't to come to you to pay for all the free care .
No matter what the outcome , it is the working middle class who will get hurt .


THE BUSH law gives them healthcare for their duration or like it specifically calls for "their transition into the country"..

Because of this, they will have no effect on peoples regular doctors visits.

TOS.
 
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