av8torntn
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Is your new claim they used agriculture loans to grow wmds or is your new stance that Iraq can't be trusted? Your angry little rants are kind of getting all over the place.
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Is your new claim they used agriculture loans to grow wmds or is your new stance that Iraq can't be trusted? Your angry little rants are kind of getting all over the place.
av8torntn
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Are you seriously now claiming that because the U.S. allowed the sale of helicopters to Iraq that backs up your claim that we sold them chemical weapons? Desperate even for you.
You sound like that "guy" who is being told his wife is cheating on him and refuses to believe it. We all laugh behind your back and you move forward polishing your wedding ring.
TOS.
av8torntn
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You sound like that guy who thinks that he found the smoking gun while everyone laughs at you to your face but the sale of a 1980s helicopter and a few old bell helicopters isn't a wmd. Sorry as I know you'd really love to find a way to blame the U.S. but you'll need more than that.
Its documented in history bub. Something you want to ignore. Like the wife. (hypothetically)
TOS.
av8torntn
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If that were the case you would have been able to provide some of that evidence that you claimed you had instead of just firing blanks as you normally do.
wkmac
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A re-visit to your post to offer a little more clarity to your question. This piece below was published a matter of weeks before we invaded Iraq in 2003'. The questions were there but as Col. Wilkerson pointed out, a certain cabal of forces were controlling every aspect of the narrative so that any opposing viewpoints in the circles of decision were crushed.
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons'
wkmac
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Also BrownArmy, research Carlos Cardoen and start down that rabbit hole. Cardoen also served as a wall to allow plausible deniability for political interests in the US.
Picture of Cardoen meeting with Saddam Hussein.
Picture of Cardoen meeting with Saddam Hussein.
yawn..... the record speaks for itself. You on the other hand speak for the oblivious.
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av8torntn
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You're trying so hard. It's a shame you can't produce any of those records.
I am not trying anything at all. The record speaks for itself. Your pursuit of an "education" isnt my responsibility. Of all the sources posted on this thread, YOU are the only one still holding out that the USA had nothing to do with handingSaddam Hussein weapons of mass destruction ( by bushs definition) during the Reagan administration.
As I previously stated, You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. I cant fix stupid.
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av8torntn
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Likewise it isn't my fault that your smoking gun is the US allowing the sale of an agricultural helicopter to Iraq. Ironic since if the U.S. would have blocked that sale you likely would have been the first to cite that as a reason they hate us.
It's also interesting to note that you made the claim that you had photographic and documented evidence of US made wmd's in Iraq yet what you produce doesn't even amount to a good conspiracy theory.
Guess a troll gotta be a troll.
From Reason Magazine:
Why didn't the government reveal their existence? Possibly because they were embarrassed that they were wrong, or perhaps because in some cases the U.S. and some of its Western allies had played a role in designing or creating the weapons in the first place:
Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. “They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds,” Mr. Lampier said. “And all of this was from the pre-1991 era.”
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
Why didn't the government reveal their existence? Possibly because they were embarrassed that they were wrong, or perhaps because in some cases the U.S. and some of its Western allies had played a role in designing or creating the weapons in the first place:
Participants in the chemical weapons discoveries said the United States suppressed knowledge of finds for multiple reasons, including that the government bristled at further acknowledgment it had been wrong. “They needed something to say that after Sept. 11 Saddam used chemical rounds,” Mr. Lampier said. “And all of this was from the pre-1991 era.”
Others pointed to another embarrassment. In five of six incidents in which troops were wounded by chemical agents, the munitions appeared to have been designed in the United States, manufactured in Europe and filled in chemical agent production lines built in Iraq by Western companies.
av8torntn
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More speculation by reason? You bring possibly, could have and appears as the basis for your grand conspiracy? Funny stuff
At least you guys have moved on from Iraq didn't violate the cease fire agreement to it shouldn't matter because it appears to reason that they possibly, could have converted converted our technology to wmds.
You two are funny if little else. Thanks for another great laugh.
So dismissing the most Libertarian source I could find, out of hand? It's even funded by your heroes, the Kochs.
You have shown an adversity to reality based discussions, so Good Day, sir.
Thank you, it's a badge of honor.
av8torntn
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If you would like to join reality you should possibly bring some facts to the discussion instead of your petty unfounded speculation. That's probably too much to ask of you though.
av8torntn
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