Is UPS quitting the railroads?

[oldngray]

VENTURA, Calif. (AP) -- California is preparing for an oil boom — brought in on rail car
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/california-see-surge-oil-brought-200831486.html

 

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[rod]

We have one coal train after another that is coming from ND to Duluth, Mn. where it is loaded on 1,000 foot ships headed east on the Great Lakes. Also grain trains during harvest season. From what I've read Amtracks Great Northern Limited running from Chicago to Seattle has all but shut down due to not enough track time available.

 

[Apd]

Amtracks Great Northern Limited running from Chicago to Seattle

That would be Amtraks Empire Builder.

 

[rod]

That would be Amtraks Empire Builder.

You are correct

 

[feeder05]

heard a couple of things…BN told UPS that they can not guarantee transit times and said deal with it. Also that BN might build a UPS rail only from chicago to the west coast…who knows?

 

[barnyard]

We have one coal train after another that is coming from ND to Duluth, Mn. where it is loaded on 1,000 foot ships headed east on the Great Lakes. Also grain trains during harvest season.

I have read articles and testimony from elevator managers in the Dakotas that own their own railcars that are saying they used to get 2.5 trips per month per trainset and now they are getting less than 1.5 trips a month. These same managers doubt they will have last year's crop shipped before this year's crop starts coming in.

The money that BNSF is making on oil is allowing them to lose UPS business without pain, even though this was business they aggressively developed.

 

[rod]

I have read articles and testimony from elevator managers in the Dakotas that own their own railcars that are saying they used to get 2.5 trips per month per trainset and now they are getting less than 1.5 trips a month. These same managers doubt they will have last year's crop shipped before this year's crop starts coming in.

The money that BNSF is making on oil is allowing them to lose UPS business without pain, even though this was business they aggressively developed.

Oil is King----all others wait your turn (if there is a turn for you). I have also read about how the farmers in the Dakotas are warning of a disaster coming up this fall at harvest time due to not being able to get their grain to market.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What happens when the oil dries up?

 

[jaker]

What happens when the oil dries up?

You will be dead , I will be dead and my kids by that time

 

[rod]

What happens when the oil dries up?

there will be a lot of friction in the world.

 

[oldngray]

What happens when the oil dries up?

The world will turn to renewable sources like whale oil.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

there will be a lot of friction in the world.

So thats hs problem?

 

[Catatonic]

What happens when the oil dries up?

Society will break down and fat people will be executed and rendered for their fat.

 

[cosmo1]

Society will break down and fat people will be executed and rendered for their fat.

Did you start your diet?

 

[oldngray]

There wouldn't be any feeder drivers left.

 

[rod]

Society will break down and fat people will be executed and rendered for their fat.

Fat people are harder to kidnap

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I was talking about the Bakken oil.

 

[Catatonic]

Did you start your diet?

I plan on dying before we run out of oil.

 

[retiredTxfeeder]

Be nice, old! (trying hard to hold it in)