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Box Ox

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Do you think Hamas should remain in control of Gaza?
 

Box Ox

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Do you think Hamas should remain in control of Gaza?
i dont know im going on vacation again i dont have time for norm finkelsteins opinion or gideon levy

I'd bet you do think Hamas should remain in control of Gaza. That's something Israel can't accept after October 7. You should change your mind on that if you don't want to be part of the problem for Gazans going forward.
 

vantexan

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by fires?
Do you even think about what you saying? You said it was like asking Hawaii to relocate after Pearl Harbor as if the attack on our naval base there completely destroyed Hawaii. Now you're throwing in the recent fire I guess which destroyed one town on Maui, not the whole island. Gaza is almost completely destroyed. Exactly what do you think the Gazans are losing? They don't want to be in Gaza anyways. They want all of Israel which you believe they should get too. If you cared about them like you claim you'd want them away from the fighting and devastation.
 

rickyb

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Do you even think about what you saying? You said it was like asking Hawaii to relocate after Pearl Harbor as if the attack on our naval base there completely destroyed Hawaii. Now you're throwing in the recent fire I guess which destroyed one town on Maui, not the whole island. Gaza is almost completely destroyed. Exactly what do you think the Gazans are losing? They don't want to be in Gaza anyways. They want all of Israel which you believe they should get too. If you cared about them like you claim you'd want them away from the fighting and devastation.
let the palestinians decide for themselves whether they wish to remain in palestine or free to travel which they currently dont have as they are the worlds largest open air prison courtesy of israel and egypt i believe
 

vantexan

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let the palestinians decide for themselves whether they wish to remain in palestine or free to travel which they currently dont have as they are the worlds largest open air prison courtesy of israel and egypt i believe
Unfortunately the Palestinians have shot themselves in the foot with the constant violence. Thus others have to decide for them.
 

rickyb

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Unfortunately the Palestinians have shot themselves in the foot with the constant violence. Thus others have to decide for them.
its harder for a man to be honest with themselves than be a soldier in war

obviously you would not agree if it were american or some other country

freedom is about self determination. womens self determination, black self determination, worker self determination, countries not being dominated by crazy right wing jewish countries and the corrupt empires that support them.

actually it was the israelis that did it.
 

vantexan

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its harder for a man to be honest with themselves than be a soldier in war

obviously you would not agree if it were american or some other country

freedom is about self determination. womens self determination, black self determination, worker self determination, countries not being dominated by crazy right wing jewish countries and the corrupt empires that support them.

actually it was the israelis that did it.
The Israelis won. The Arab countries around them have mostly accepted that. The Palestinians and the fanatical Muslims refuse to. There are a million plus Muslims living peacefully inside Israel that have accepted that. If people insist on continuing to make war then they end up bringing hell down on themselves. You call Gaza the world's largest open air prison but the Palestinians ended up segregated there because they refuse to stop the violence.

Look around the Muslim world. Except for those who have oil where do you see prosperity? Do you think that if the Jews never showed up in Palestine at the end of WWII that the Palestinians would have a country as prosperous and developed as Israel is now? The Israelis aren't innately superior because they are white. They're superior because their culture values advancement. You're rooting for a culture that values control and suppression. And the only way the Israelis can deal with them is to control and suppress them because that's what they understand. Up to the Palestinians to take a more enlightened approach and live in peace.
 

rickyb

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The Israelis won. The Arab countries around them have mostly accepted that. The Palestinians and the fanatical Muslims refuse to. There are a million plus Muslims living peacefully inside Israel that have accepted that. If people insist on continuing to make war then they end up bringing hell down on themselves. You call Gaza the world's largest open air prison but the Palestinians ended up segregated there because they refuse to stop the violence.

Look around the Muslim world. Except for those who have oil where do you see prosperity? Do you think that if the Jews never showed up in Palestine at the end of WWII that the Palestinians would have a country as prosperous and developed as Israel is now? The Israelis aren't innately superior because they are white. They're superior because their culture values advancement. You're rooting for a culture that values control and suppression. And the only way the Israelis can deal with them is to control and suppress them because that's what they understand. Up to the Palestinians to take a more enlightened approach and live in peace.
israel sucks man we should stop funding them for our own security and invest in ourselves

how much paid vacation do we get

i have no idea if its over or not
 
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