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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Are those the ones that shut down at sunset on the Sabbath?
Lineandinitial
Legio patria nostra
There are a couple of people on this thread that are completely wrong with the theories about Hamas' intentions, Israel's capabilities and the "options". 4 years in the Army as a cook and now a union truck driver do not qualify you as a military strategist. Just an uninformed union truck driver with theories and opinions
texan
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Obama warns Egyptian President Morsi to rein in terrorists in Gaza
By Julian Pecquet | November 19, 2012
President Obama on Monday warned Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi that he must get the violence in
Gaza under control.
Frustration in the U.S. over rocket attacks on Israel from Hamas militants is increasingly centered on
Egypt, and is expected to raise pointed questions from lawmakers next week about the $2 billion in
annual American aid to that country.
Obama warns Egyptian President Morsi to rein in terrorists in Gaza - The Hill's Global Affairs
Note the assumption that Mr. Morsi has direct control over Hamas. Of course it is a perfectly safe
assumption, given that Hamas is an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
In fact, the Congressional Research Service said in 1993: "Hamas had its beginnings in 1967 as a wing
of the Muslim Brotherhood."
http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/931014-hamas.htm
By Julian Pecquet | November 19, 2012
President Obama on Monday warned Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi that he must get the violence in
Gaza under control.
Frustration in the U.S. over rocket attacks on Israel from Hamas militants is increasingly centered on
Egypt, and is expected to raise pointed questions from lawmakers next week about the $2 billion in
annual American aid to that country.
Obama warns Egyptian President Morsi to rein in terrorists in Gaza - The Hill's Global Affairs
Note the assumption that Mr. Morsi has direct control over Hamas. Of course it is a perfectly safe
assumption, given that Hamas is an off-shoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.
In fact, the Congressional Research Service said in 1993: "Hamas had its beginnings in 1967 as a wing
of the Muslim Brotherhood."
http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/931014-hamas.htm
ajblakejr
Age quod agis
We a have a few people on this thread with a dead serious Army background.
We have a few people on this thread with Air Force background.
And not everyone is a service provider / driver.
Nothing wrong with providing an opinion or a theory.
ajblakejr
Age quod agis
wkmac
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There's more to Israel and her enemies than meets the eye.
Question(s): Zionists don't want a 2 state solution and instead want all the land. That being so, how would Israel justify getting the land had the Palestinians remained non violent in Gaza and the West Bank? That said, who really benefits from these rocket attacks by Hamas?
Question(s): Zionists don't want a 2 state solution and instead want all the land. That being so, how would Israel justify getting the land had the Palestinians remained non violent in Gaza and the West Bank? That said, who really benefits from these rocket attacks by Hamas?
texan
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1,550 rockets have been fired this year towards Israel from Gaza
627 rockets were fired last year from Gaza.
[SIZE=+1]1,550 rockets[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]and [/SIZE][SIZE=+1]400 mortar shells[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]fired from Gaza have hit Israeli civilian areas.
An Israeli soldier walks up the steps of a house damaged by another rocket that landed in Beersheba.
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627 rockets were fired last year from Gaza.
[SIZE=+1]1,550 rockets[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]and [/SIZE][SIZE=+1]400 mortar shells[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]fired from Gaza have hit Israeli civilian areas.
An Israeli soldier walks up the steps of a house damaged by another rocket that landed in Beersheba.
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I heard an interesting viewpoint on this today. Israel is in position to dominate Gaza with relative ease. They've done it before. But it is a short term solution to a long term problem that will only return again. The endgame is at the negotiation table and it seems very few really want a solution at this time.
av8torntn
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wkmac
Well-Known Member
For you I never had any doubt!
ajblakejr
Age quod agis
Iran
wkmac
Well-Known Member
Alan Hart, former ITN/BBC Correspondent on his book "Zionism, The Real Enemy of the Jews."
Alan Hart - Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews - YouTube
Alan Hart - Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews - YouTube
moreluck
golden ticket member
If Hamas considers this a victory, I’d love to see what a defeat looks like.
Via JPost:
Via JPost:
Hamas reacted to the Egyptian-brokered cease-fire agreement that was announced Wednesday by declaring “victory” over Israel.
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip reacted to the cease-fire announcement by taking to the streets to celebrate Hamas’s “victory.”
Similar celebrations were also reported in some West Bank cities late Wednesday.
Drivers honked their cars and women ululated to express their joy over the cease-fire agreement. Others handed out candies to express their joy over the cease-fire agreement.
Palestinian gunmen fired shots into the air in Gaza City while others kissed the ground in a sign of jubilation.
Palestinians in the Gaza Strip reacted to the cease-fire announcement by taking to the streets to celebrate Hamas’s “victory.”
Similar celebrations were also reported in some West Bank cities late Wednesday.
Drivers honked their cars and women ululated to express their joy over the cease-fire agreement. Others handed out candies to express their joy over the cease-fire agreement.
Palestinian gunmen fired shots into the air in Gaza City while others kissed the ground in a sign of jubilation.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
While I am aware that there are two sides to the story and that there certainly has been wrongdoing on Israels part...the fact remains that it is impossible to arrive at a negotiated solution with an entity whose default position is that you have no right to exist and must be destroyed.
Until the people of Gaza find a way to expel the terrorist Hamas elements in their midst...nothing is going to change. There will be a temporary cease fire...then Hamas will violate it by firing rockets at Israeli civilians...then Israel will respond by attacking the rocket launching sites that Hamas has positioned in civilian areas...then inocent Gazan civilians will be killed and the whole world will blame Israel.
Israel isnt going away. The sooner that the Arab world recognizes and accepts this immutable fact, the sooner than meaningful negotiations can begin.
Until the people of Gaza find a way to expel the terrorist Hamas elements in their midst...nothing is going to change. There will be a temporary cease fire...then Hamas will violate it by firing rockets at Israeli civilians...then Israel will respond by attacking the rocket launching sites that Hamas has positioned in civilian areas...then inocent Gazan civilians will be killed and the whole world will blame Israel.
Israel isnt going away. The sooner that the Arab world recognizes and accepts this immutable fact, the sooner than meaningful negotiations can begin.
island1fox
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I hope this does not sound "too Liberal" or "too Conservative" or to Dopey----but Today I am Thankful for My Life and Family and have said a Prayer (sorry atheists-no offense} For PEACE ON EARTH .
