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oldngray

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New videos reveal how Hamas and other Gaza terrorist groups are launching rockets next to foreign correspondents’ broadcast positions, thus turning reporters into human shields to deter Israeli military counter-strikes on rocket-launchers.

The videos emerged as several reporters said they had been threatened by Hamas for reporting on its placing its military assets next to sensitive sites like mosques and schools.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-used-as-human-shields-by-gaza-terror-groups/
 

wkmac

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Recently I saw this meme quoting an Israeli political minister and Rabbi and although the claim was no surprise, I decided to look up Rabbi Ben Dahan to see if such a quote was even reflective of his views. From a December 2013' piece in the Israeli Haaretz newspaper on the good Rabbi, his own words seems to at the least reflect the alleged sentiments above.

The hierarchy of the human species as told by Eli Ben Dahan

There are Arabs who don't want jews to exist and I've no doubt there are jews who feel the ame about Arabs. This is one more reason to stay totally and completely out of the middle of the mess in the Middle East between Jews and Arabs. If ever there was a time to avoid "entangling alliances" this is it. The Haaretz link appears to give a one time view and then any further clicks are behind a firewall to which you have to register. In case the link goes to the registration, here are some highlights from the piece.

The truth is that you don’t even need to ask anything. Veteran journalist Shalom Yerushalmi from the veteran newspaper Maariv asked for you. A short and comprehensive interview he conducted toward the end of last week with Rabbi Eli Ben Dahan, the deputy minister of religious services, who operates under the wings of big brother Nafatli Bennett, the economy minister who is also officially the minister of religious affairs, paints the picture quite nicely.

Let's start with the important parts of the news. The questions and answers were presented verbatim, in abbreviations, but without editing or rewriting. As it is said: The words of the living God. After all, Ben Dahan’s motto is “I have to keep the state Jewish. Things that contradict the values, culture or tradition, will not receive a legal stamp of approval.” (Note how he is an expert in culture and values, not just religion.)

Do homosexuals change the Jewish character of the state?

“God forbid. Bastards are also Jews. I don’t want to persecute a person because of what he does in his privacy of his home. Quite the contrary ... They can do what they want, but we will not grant it legal status.”

What will you do if a law for single sex marriages is proposed [in the Knesset]?

“No, under no circumstances. A Jew and a goy can also not marry.”

Is that the same thing?

“We don’t recognize either of them. In any case, a Jew always has a much higher [level] soul than a goy, even if he is a homosexual ... Matters of religion and state are the largest obstacle in the path of the government ... Conflicts between women are much more difficult than conflicts between men..." (On the parliamentary conflict between MK Adi Kol (Yesh Atid) and MK Ayelet Shaked (Habayit Hayehudi) over the bill granting same-sex parents equal tax exemptions to heterosexual parents.)

“We receive complaints that mikvaot [Jewish ritual baths] attendants touch women who [come] to immerse. It is shocking. We sent out instructions that forbid them from touching. A woman of young girl who comes to the mikveh wants to do something intimate. It is only between her and the Holy One Blessed Be He.”

That's enough of Ben Dahan. In my opinion, he is not the story at all. It is very easy to criticize him, to call him names, to call him “dark” and “primitive.” But there is no use in doing so. An Israeli government that includes a deputy minister like Eli Ben Dahan knows exactly what it is getting. He is an Orthodox rabbi, a senior representative of the Haredi nationalist movement, someone who poured water on the hands of Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu, managed the rabbinic courts, lived in Beit El in the West Bank and Hispin in the Golan Heights.

In the Knesset he represents the Tekuma faction, which is the settler, Haredi nationalist wing of Habayit Hayehudi. Had he been elected to the previous Knesset, he would have done so on the slate of the National Union party, but this time he's with Habayit Hayehudi. Only the names and the wrapping have changed. Instead of the sandals and the Dubon winter coat of his patron Katzele, former Knesset member Yaakov Katz from the extreme right wing National Union Party in the previous Knesset, he now has, in the present round, the sweet talk and miniscule kippa of his new patron Naftali Bennett. An all of them, every last one of them, belong to the umbrella party of the Jewish Brotherhood. There is no difference at all between them and the Muslim Brotherhood, except for the technical difference in the religion they belong to and use. Both of them are fundamentalists who deny the authority and sovereignty of the state and use it only as a tool to achieve their true goals.

The real problem

The real problem is not Ben Dahan and his ilk, but the fact that the Israeli government is dependent on them and puts them in ministerial positions. We must understand what a man like him represents, even in this short and clear interview. He represents a racist and overtly chauvinistic way of thinking. Ways that come to be out of the great number of problems and issues and numbing of the senses that pass all of us by, past our ears without us understanding the scope of the trouble and the depth of the disgrace.

According to the Ben Dahanist world view, there is a clear hierarchy in the world. There is a supreme race, the very same chosen people called the Jewish nation. At the top of the pyramid are the heterosexual Jewish men. If I understood correctly, underneath them are the Jewish women, Jewish bastards and Jewish homosexuals; though I am not sure that I understood completely the internal rankings starting with the second position in the upper playoffs. In practice, there is a need for an internal division among the Jewish women: There are heterosexual Jewish women, those who may not tend to fight at high volume but commune intimately with men or with God; and there are women who are Jewish lesbians, who Ben Dahan did not relate to directly (though it is possible that his statements about the mikveh attendants who touch those same women contain a hint to his position on the matter). Now that I think about it, I am also missing a direct reference from Ben Dahan to the Jewish women who have intimate relations with male goyim, and in fact I am missing many, many more such combinations. In fact, I am mad at my journalistic colleague Shalom Yerushalmi from Maariv; his work here wasn’t serious.

Despite all of this, I am taking a calculated risk here and, based on the algorithm I have developed, I will present to you the full table of deputy Religious Services Minister Eli Ben Dahan concerning the hierarchy of the human species.

1. Jewish men who have sexual relations with Jewish women

2. Jewish bastards

3. Jewish women who have sexual relations with Jewish men or with the Holy One Blessed Be He

4. Jewish men who have sexual relations with non - Jewish women

5. Jewish homosexual men who have sexual relations with Jewish men

6. Jewish lesbians who have sexual relations with Jewish women

7. Jewish homosexual men who have sexual relations with non - Jewish men

8. Jewish lesbians who have sexual relations with non - Jewish women

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9. Male Goyim

10. Female Goyim

Note the fact that below the line are only "goyim;" there is no need or reason to divide them up into subcategories. We only need to pour out our wrath on them, to be very careful not to marry them, and to remember extremely well that even a Jewish homosexual (and it goes without saying about, say, a Jewish heterosexual murderer) is endowed with “a soul [on a] very much higher [level]” than their souls. Truly a nation of a light unto the gentiles.

The only question that remains to be asked is this: How can a nation so proud of being “the only democracy in the Middle East,” and “a villa in the jungle,” and all sorts of other stupid slogans; can operate in practice as the only theocracy in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD). Not just because it has combined religion and state from the date it was established, Israel also dismantled the Religious Affairs Ministry and then reestablished it - and then actually, from among all the possibilities, it placed the ministry in the hands of the Jewish Brothers Naftali Bennett and Eli Ben Dahan. This must be a rather crazy nation. For all those who cannot remember how it happened, I will remind you that the non-religious reformist party Yesh Atid made its entry into the Netanyahu coalition conditional on the inclusion of Habayit Hayehudi, the Jewish Brotherhood.

Seems the muslim brotherhood are not alone when it come to religious extremism.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
We shouldn't even belong to the U.N. and we should tell them that as non-members we want them out of the "clubhouse" and moving to some other country..
Not only should we stop being part of the U.N., we should stop all foreign aid immediately.
Not a penny. We can send help in cases of major natural disasters, but other than that, they should be on their own.
 

Brown echo

If u are not alive than for sure truth is not real
The U.N. is full of Israeli haters. They always vote against Israel on everything.
Nice try though. You are welcome to try again if you can find a credible source.
REPUBLICANS ARE JUST LIKE DIAPERS THEY SHOULD BE CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR SAME REASON.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
Recently I saw this meme quoting an Israeli political minister and Rabbi and although the claim was no surprise, I decided to look up Rabbi Ben Dahan to see if such a quote was even reflective of his views. From a December 2013' piece in the Israeli Haaretz newspaper on the good Rabbi, his own words seems to at the least reflect the alleged sentiments above.

The hierarchy of the human species as told by Eli Ben Dahan

There are Arabs who don't want jews to exist and I've no doubt there are jews who feel the ame about Arabs. This is one more reason to stay totally and completely out of the middle of the mess in the Middle East between Jews and Arabs. If ever there was a time to avoid "entangling alliances" this is it. The Haaretz link appears to give a one time view and then any further clicks are behind a firewall to which you have to register. In case the link goes to the registration, here are some highlights from the piece.



Seems the muslim brotherhood are not alone when it come to religious extremism.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that Palestinians are animals and deserve to die but the evil Islamists that were constantly firing rockets into Israel and murdering Jews on the streets definitely behave like animals. So why not put them down like animals? Remember these are throat cutting savages that hide behind civilians. Islam is to blame. It is pure evil. Those animals recently cut the heads off 50 people in Syria and stuck them on poles. The video was on Liveleak.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
I wouldn't go as far as to say that Palestinians are animals and deserve to die but the evil Islamists that were constantly firing rockets into Israel and murdering Jews on the streets definitely behave like animals. So why not put them down like animals? Remember these are throat cutting savages that hide behind civilians. Islam is to blame. It is pure evil. Those animals recently cut the heads off 50 people in Syria and stuck them on poles. The video was on Liveleak.

Seems to me the good Rabbi doesn't make such distinctions. But then I doubt he's alone in how some jihadist see the good Rabbi and his kind.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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So are you suggesting we should exterminate all muslims?
Islam is like a deadly virus and must be stamped out. I'd prefer that one day each and every one of it's followers would suddenly wake up and snap out of it. But since that will never happen in the real world maybe something should be done to isolate them from the rest of the world. But those savages would still be lashes out at everyone else even if they were handed every inch of Israel. Their goal is to spread Islam everywhere. Why shouldn't the rest of the world try and eliminate them? Those that follow Islam are obviously not shy about trying to eliminate all of us "non believers." Personally I believe in dialogue first but Islam is to big and bad for that now. They can't, WON'T, even honor a cease fire that is only supposed to last hours.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
What do you suggest?

I didn't nor did the question imply such answer was forthcoming.

Besides, as an atheist, you wouldn't like what I think and the irony is when it comes to people like me, you and the muslim are kindred spirits.
 
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