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[Box Ox]

U.N. Security Council Approves U.S.-Backed Gaza Ceasefire Resolution

Hamas has accepted a United Nations Security Council resolution calling for a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip. The U.S.-supported resolution passed Monday on a vote of 14 to 0, after Russia abstained. Its passage came after the Biden administration vetoed three previous resolutions calling for a...

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Has Hamas accepted yet?

UN Security Council adopts US draft resolution supporting Gaza cease-fire plan

The United Nations Security Council on Monday afternoon adopted a U.S. draft resolution urging Hamas to accept the latest cease-fire and hostage release proposal.

abcnews.go.com

“Nate Evans, spokesperson for the U.S. mission to the United Nations, noted in a statement ahead of the vote that the plan would enable a pause in fighting, the freeing of a number of hostages and an immediate surge in humanitarian assistance, among other things.

"Israel has accepted this proposal and the Security Council has an opportunity to speak with one voice and call on Hamas to do the same," his statement continued.”

 

[oldngray]

Has Hamas accepted yet?

UN Security Council adopts US draft resolution supporting Gaza cease-fire plan

The United Nations Security Council on Monday afternoon adopted a U.S. draft resolution urging Hamas to accept the latest cease-fire and hostage release proposal.

abcnews.go.com

“Nate Evans, spokesperson for the U.S. mission to the United Nations, noted in a statement ahead of the vote that the plan would enable a pause in fighting, the freeing of a number of hostages and an immediate surge in humanitarian assistance, among other things.

"Israel has accepted this proposal and the Security Council has an opportunity to speak with one voice and call on Hamas to do the same," his statement continued.”

Israel knows Hamas will back out of any agreements they make. Freeing a number of hostages? If Hamas doesn't release all of them it looks like a non starter to me.

 

[rickyb]

Has Hamas accepted yet?

UN Security Council adopts US draft resolution supporting Gaza cease-fire plan

The United Nations Security Council on Monday afternoon adopted a U.S. draft resolution urging Hamas to accept the latest cease-fire and hostage release proposal.

abcnews.go.com

“Nate Evans, spokesperson for the U.S. mission to the United Nations, noted in a statement ahead of the vote that the plan would enable a pause in fighting, the freeing of a number of hostages and an immediate surge in humanitarian assistance, among other things.

"Israel has accepted this proposal and the Security Council has an opportunity to speak with one voice and call on Hamas to do the same," his statement continued.”

your article is from 1 day ago, mine is from today.

 

[oldngray]

Indeed. Hamas wants more dead Palestinian civilians.

Hamas leader said civilian death toll could benefit militant group in Gaza war, WSJ reports | CNN

The military leader of Hamas has said he believes he has gained the upper hand over Israel and that the spiralling civilian death toll in Gaza would work in the militant group’s favor, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal, citing leaked messages the newspaper said it had seen.

amp.cnn.com

“We have the Israelis right where we want them,” Yahya Sinwar told other Hamas leaders recently, according to one of the messages, the WSJ reported Monday. In another, Sinwar is said to have described civilian deaths as “necessary sacrifices” while citing past independence-related conflicts in countries like Algeria.”



It’s still about the same thing. Has Hamas accepted yet?

It looks like the US is saying Israel accepted the agreement but nothing coming directly from Israel about it.

Hamas released a statement welcoming the adoption of the resolution and stating it was ready to work with mediators in indirect negotiations with Israel to implement it.


Curiously, Gilad Erdan, Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, did not address the Security Council as planned, even though he was present in the council chamber for part of the meeting.


Instead, senior Israeli diplomat Reut Shapir Ben Naftaly told the council that Israel’s war aims have been “very clear” from the start: “To bring all our hostages back home and to dismantle Hamas’ capabilities…and ensure that Gaza does not pose a threat to Israel in the future.”

Vasily Nebenzya, Russia’s U.N. envoy, said it was not clear what Israel had actually committed to.


“Hamas is called upon to accept this so-called deal, but still there is no…clarity regarding official agreement from Israel,” said Nebenzia. ”Given the many statements from Israel on the extension of the war until Hamas is completely defeated…what specifically has Israel agreed to?”

https://www.jns.org/unsc-passes-resolution-on-biden-ceasefire-plan/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated

 

[Box Ox]

your article is from 1 day ago, mine is from today.

It’s still about the same thing. Has Hanas accepted?

 

[Box Ox]

It looks like the US is saying Israel accepted the agreement but nothing coming directly from Israel about it.

Hamas released a statement welcoming the adoption of the resolution and stating it was ready to work with mediators in indirect negotiations with Israel to implement it.


Curiously, Gilad Erdan, Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, did not address the Security Council as planned, even though he was present in the council chamber for part of the meeting.


Instead, senior Israeli diplomat Reut Shapir Ben Naftaly told the council that Israel’s war aims have been “very clear” from the start: “To bring all our hostages back home and to dismantle Hamas’ capabilities…and ensure that Gaza does not pose a threat to Israel in the future.”

Vasily Nebenzya, Russia’s U.N. envoy, said it was not clear what Israel had actually committed to.


“Hamas is called upon to accept this so-called deal, but still there is no…clarity regarding official agreement from Israel,” said Nebenzia. ”Given the many statements from Israel on the extension of the war until Hamas is completely defeated…what specifically has Israel agreed to?”

https://www.jns.org/unsc-passes-resolution-on-biden-ceasefire-plan/?utm_source=wnd&utm_medium=wnd&utm_campaign=syndicated

Realistically, this thing probably won’t end until the Israelis find Yahya Sinwar hiding in a tunnel behind Palestinian women and babies.

 

[Box Ox]

speaking of right wingers, france far right wing party set to win snap election.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800671558027055340

 

[rickyb]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1800671558027055340

no no, these countries are shifting far right.

dont make excuses for how bad hte politics are.

 

[Box Ox]

no no, these countries are shifting far right.

dont make excuses for how bad hte politics are.

What makes someone "far right"?

 

[oldngray]

 

[rickyb]

What makes someone "far right"?

this?

 

[rickyb]

What makes someone "far right"?

i think israel went far right last 15 years or so.

 

[Box Ox]

this?
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Do you consider a European who doesn't want endless waves of Muslim migrants to be entering their country to be holding xenophobic or racist views?

 

[vantexan]

no no, these countries are shifting far right.

dont make excuses for how bad hte politics are.

You mean "were."

 

[rickyb]

Do you consider a European who doesn't want endless waves of Muslim migrants to be entering their country to be holding xenophobic or racist views?

some of htem probably are. youre not going to hear left wingers saying this.

 

[rickyb]

Do you consider a European who doesn't want endless waves of Muslim migrants to be entering their country to be holding xenophobic or racist views?

they have a right to be angry but where their target is misplaced

 

[Box Ox]

What makes someone "far right"?

this?
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Do you consider a European who doesn't want endless waves of Muslim migrants to be entering their country to be holding xenophobic or racist views?

some of htem probably are.

they have a right to be angry but where their target is misplaced

Come on. You can go ahead and just say yes.

 

[rickyb]

Come on. You can go ahead and just say yes.

you can just be honest.

its equivalent to hillary clinton calling trump supporters deplorables. you dont write off people like that.

 

[Box Ox]

Do you consider a European who doesn't want endless waves of Muslim migrants to be entering their country to be holding xenophobic or racist views?

some of htem probably are. youre not going to hear left wingers saying this.

they have a right to be angry but where their target is misplaced

Come on. You can go ahead and just say yes.

you can just be honest.

You should try being more honest with yourself.

In 3rd world countries like turkey theres people who go into mosques at 430 am and start singing on loud speakers every day ayyyyyyyyy hayyyyyyaaaaaaaaa and its not a noise complaint

These ppl are out of their minds

 

[rickyb]

You should try being more honest with yourself.

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if you think im a liar then why talk?