It's the Final Solution!

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I know that I will be gone.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I know that I will be gone.

Now?

 

[cosmo1]

I know that I will be gone.

And sorely missed.

 

[MC0493]

Pretty much a mass influx of off the street hires in my center. Myself being one. Probably at least a quarter of the drivers have less than 5 years in.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Pretty much a mass influx of off the street hires in my center. Myself being one. Probably at least a quarter of the drivers have less than 5 years in.

Yeah there's been a hiring spree here the past couple years. More drivers getting out while they can walk without a cane. ; p

 

[Driveslayer]

Must have missed that conference call

It was not a conference call! You just weren't invited.

 

[Boulevard859710]

Anybody see UPS offering a buyout of certain drivers next contract?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Final Solution definition. A term applied by Nazis to the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Before instituting the Final Solution, the Nazi government had abolished the Jews' rights, destroyed and confiscated their property, and confined Jews in concentration camps.

Please don't compare what might be perceived as pushing drivers out to the attempted erasure of an entire religious section of our population.

If it came from mgmt., not surprising.

 

[Catatonic]

If it came from mgmt., not surprising.

Well ... driver slayer did start this thread.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Anybody see UPS offering a buyout of certain drivers next contract?

Nope.

 

[Catatonic]

Final Solution definition. A term applied by Nazis to the genocide of European Jews during World War II. Before instituting the Final Solution, the Nazi government had abolished the Jews' rights, destroyed and confiscated their property, and confined Jews in concentration camps.

Please don't compare what might be perceived as pushing drivers out to the attempted erasure of an entire religious section of our population.

That's pretty funny I think.
Final Solution is commonly used in a "non-comparison" manner ... it is used in movies and TV to the point it has become a part of our vernacular.
I guess what I'm suggesting is to give ole driver slayer a break.

 

[hellfire]

Hopefully H


Will be gone.

I don't see how we will have any shot at a pension without UPS saving us, which is a scary scary thought because we all know how much corporate cares about its employees.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I don't see how we will have any shot at a pension without UPS saving us, which is a scary scary thought because we all know how much corporate cares about its employees.

They want to get rid of us old-timers.
Less pay raises, less insurance and a longer progression and probably no regular pension for the new hires.

 

[Catatonic]

I don't see how we will have any shot at a pension without UPS saving us, which is a scary scary thought because we all know how much corporate cares about its employees.

Especially since UPS has contractually fulfilled their commitments.

 

[Catatonic]

They want to get rid of us old-timers.
Less pay raises, less insurance and a longer progression and probably no regular pension for the new hires.

Look at what UPS has done to management and that is what UPS would like to do drivers.
Nobody cares about part timers.

 

[Future]

Especially since UPS has contractually fulfilled their commitments.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Look at what UPS has done to management and that is what UPS would like to do drivers.
Nobody cares about part timers.

You would have to be completely nuts to go into management now. The smaller paychecks, no pension and way too much pressure .

 

[Box Ox]

You would have to be completely nuts to go into management now. The smaller paychecks, no pension and way too much pressure .

My biggest problem would be not being able to sleep at night. Some of the stuff management likely has to do to avoid the axe probably gnaws away at the ones who were raised right.

 

[Catatonic]

My biggest problem would be not being able to sleep at night. Some of the stuff management likely has to do to avoid the axe probably gnaws away at the ones who were raised right.

Nahh!
Management rationalizes their actions and behaviors just like drivers do ... the real difference is the impact of those actions and behaviors on others.
I was in management for 35 years and I never met a person who had problems sleeping at night because of their decisions.
I would say drivers perceive management in the same way drivers are perceived by their children.

Bullying monsters.
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[UnconTROLLed]

Nahh!
Management rationalizes their actions and behaviors just like drivers do ... the real difference is the impact of those actions and behaviors on others.
I was in management for 35 years and I never met a person who had problems sleeping at night because of their decisions.
I would say drivers perceive management in the same way drivers are perceived by their children.

Bullying monsters.
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Given the amount of (lower) management I see either walking out, going on stress leave, doing drugs /drinking on the job etc., I'm going to guess they've had some sleepless nights and yes it does have to do with their day-to-day functions.