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Meat

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As some of you know, I’m employed by Fedex as a handler; and between my girlfriend and I, we have five children. Under Trump, some of the members on this this message board predicted that the economy would skyrocket, which would benefit sods like me. In many ways, that prediction was common sense; the top one percent of all income earners in the US have double the wealth of the bottom 90 percent. Obviously, it makes sense that if we cut their taxes substantially, people like me will GREATLY benefit. For instance, the biggest employer in the US, Walmart, just raised their minimum wage to $11.00 - not to shabby! Quick question, though.Why was 2017 the weakest year of job growth since 2010? I thought America would have been great again by now. What gives?
 

vantexan

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As some of you know, I’m employed by Fedex as a handler; and between my girlfriend and I, we have five children. Under Trump, some of the members on this this message board predicted that the economy would skyrocket, which would benefit sods like me. In many ways, that prediction was common sense; the top one percent of all income earners in the US have double the wealth of the bottom 90 percent. Obviously, it makes sense that if we cut their taxes substantially, people like me will GREATLY benefit. For instance, the biggest employer in the US, Walmart, just raised their minimum wage to $11.00 - not to shabby! Quick question, though.Why was 2017 the weakest year of job growth since 2010? I thought America would have been great again by now. What gives?
Should be moved to Current Events forum.
 

bacha29

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As some of you know, I’m employed by Fedex as a handler; and between my girlfriend and I, we have five children. Under Trump, some of the members on this this message board predicted that the economy would skyrocket, which would benefit sods like me. In many ways, that prediction was common sense; the top one percent of all income earners in the US have double the wealth of the bottom 90 percent. Obviously, it makes sense that if we cut their taxes substantially, people like me will GREATLY benefit. For instance, the biggest employer in the US, Walmart, just raised their minimum wage to $11.00 - not to shabby! Quick question, though.Why was 2017 the weakest year of job growth since 2010? I thought America would have been great again by now. What gives?
I don't know if this will answer your question or not. Three weeks ago McKinsey Global Institute a worldwide consulting firm with it's 20,000 person workforce issued a report that stated that it believed that automation, robotics and improved operating processes could eliminate 40% of the US workforce by 2030. We may be seeing the beginning of that elimination. In fact Kroger and Walmart both expect to eliminate all of it's store cashiers of the next few years. To his credit I think that Trump's crackdown on immigration might be based of the realization that in the not too distant future we may not have enough jobs to go around for our own native born Americans let alone a flood of immigrants . Then again he still brings in around 70 Haitians every year to work the season at his Florida resort.
 

vantexan

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As some of you know, I’m employed by Fedex as a handler; and between my girlfriend and I, we have five children. Under Trump, some of the members on this this message board predicted that the economy would skyrocket, which would benefit sods like me. In many ways, that prediction was common sense; the top one percent of all income earners in the US have double the wealth of the bottom 90 percent. Obviously, it makes sense that if we cut their taxes substantially, people like me will GREATLY benefit. For instance, the biggest employer in the US, Walmart, just raised their minimum wage to $11.00 - not to shabby! Quick question, though.Why was 2017 the weakest year of job growth since 2010? I thought America would have been great again by now. What gives?
The bigger question is why have 5 kids on handler pay and expect your finances to get easier?
 

Meat

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Should be moved to Current Events forum.

I’m a handler for FedEx, and the current economic climate affects me as an employee. Therefore, the topic is relevant in this forum - sorry if your wack theories haven’t panned out, and you hate seeing it in black-and-white.
 

Meat

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The bigger question is why have 5 kids on handler pay and expect your finances to get easier?

Oh, I don’t know, Van. Maybe I’m a victim of the system; why stay with an employer that subjects you to inhuman treatment? Maybe the “the system” promised me something better.
 

vantexan

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Oh, I don’t know, Van. Maybe I’m a victim of the system; why stay with an employer that subjects you to inhuman treatment? Maybe the “the system” promised me something better.
Everything is an exaggeration with you, or a lie. Based on what you've written in the past I doubt you're a handler, or even an employee. Doubtful you have any kids. That's the problem with changing your story all the time. Be consistent, only not consistently an A-hole.
 

vantexan

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I’m a handler for FedEx, and the current economic climate affects me as an employee. Therefore, the topic is relevant in this forum - sorry if your wack theories haven’t panned out, and you hate seeing it in black-and-white.
Took Obama 8 years to prove that one can literally do nothing of note in eight years, assuming you don't count healthcare. Trump can't wave his hands and magically fix things. Things take time, something impatient youth can't come to terms with.
 

Meat

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Took Obama 8 years to prove that one can literally do nothing of note in eight years, assuming you don't count healthcare. Trump can't wave his hands and magically fix things. Things take time, something impatient youth can't come to terms with.

Nothing in eight years? That depends on what you had invested in the stock market. Anyway, you really think Trump represents people like you and I?
 

floridays

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Oh, I don’t know, Van. Maybe I’m a victim of the system; why stay with an employer that subjects you to inhuman treatment? Maybe the “the system” promised me something better.
What was promised to you? State your grievance, inhumane treatment is subjective, pussywillow wise that is. Are you gonna try and bust Van's balls on previous personal claims he's made? The "system" made him no promises, Fedex singularly made false enticements. You're too easy trick.
 

floridays

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I’m a handler for FedEx, and the current economic climate affects me as an employee. Therefore, the topic is relevant in this forum - sorry if your wack theories haven’t panned out, and you hate seeing it in black-and-white.
In any economic climate what affects you is your stupidity to have 5 children on the lowest pay grade.You don't have 5 kids, kid.
 

floridays

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Nothing in eight years? That depends on what you had invested in the stock market. Anyway, you really think Trump represents people like you and I?
First, if you have 5 kids, (which you don't) by definition you and Van aren't in the same group. He didn't have 5 kids as you did, in your pay grade (the lowest). The president is not your daddy, what obligation does he owe to a person destroying their own opportunity to advance? None of this matters however as we know your supposed scenario is a lie.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
As some of you know, I’m employed by Fedex as a handler; and between my girlfriend and I, we have five children. Under Trump, some of the members on this this message board predicted that the economy would skyrocket, which would benefit sods like me. In many ways, that prediction was common sense; the top one percent of all income earners in the US have double the wealth of the bottom 90 percent. Obviously, it makes sense that if we cut their taxes substantially, people like me will GREATLY benefit. For instance, the biggest employer in the US, Walmart, just raised their minimum wage to $11.00 - not to shabby! Quick question, though.Why was 2017 the weakest year of job growth since 2010? I thought America would have been great again by now. What gives?
there are jobs galore for people who have a skill, driving a package truck or package handling isnt a skilled job. You can make money driving a truck but it is not considered a skill job. There are 6.1 million job openings in the united states that require some form of skill to do. Construction is booming, manufacturing is resurging and gdp is growing. The 6.1 million is the highest in years
 

bacha29

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Took Obama 8 years to prove that one can literally do nothing of note in eight years, assuming you don't count healthcare. Trump can't wave his hands and magically fix things. Things take time, something impatient youth can't come to terms with.
Van, you have to start digging for the facts. During Trump's first year in office the stock market grew by 18%. During Obama's first year in office it grew by 38%.Either way it doesn't really matter in today's economy. Why you might ask? The stock market is today a casino. A share of stock is held for an average of 3 minutes and of all new capital raised by the market only 15% of it actually gets into the economy. As the numbers Jkloc 420 provided point out the jobs are there and will be there for the people with the raw intelligence to acquire the skills and education needed to fill those jobs and are willing to move to where they are located For those who are not gifted with the required intellect or the freedom to go where the jobs are well, many are going to be hard pressed to experience a life worth living.
 

newfie

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Nothing in eight years? That depends on what you had invested in the stock market. Anyway, you really think Trump represents people like you and I?

absolutely. All presidents come into the office looking to build a legacy. his is that he thinks he can take this economy to a level no one has ever seen here. His vision is to leave the job as the guy that fought for the common man . He has more money then he can ever spend its all about his ego and vision at this point.
 

bacha29

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absolutely. All presidents come into the office looking to build a legacy. his is that he thinks he can take this economy to a level no one has ever seen here. His vision is to leave the job as the guy that fought for the common man . He has more money then he can ever spend its all about his ego and vision at this point.
Trump will gladly continue to supply his base with 100% of the recommended daily allowance of pure unadulterated BS despite the fact that one inescapable reality still remains . If you do not have the advanced education and jobs skills the job market requires life's not going to be kind to you and there's nothing Trump can do about that. However given his party's ongoing drive to eliminate most if not all of the assistance programs designed to help low income families with minor children then the worst thing a person who can't compete in the new economy can do is to have a kid. Then again it comes back to the old saying......"The rich get richer while the poor have babies".
 

vantexan

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Van, you have to start digging for the facts. During Trump's first year in office the stock market grew by 18%. During Obama's first year in office it grew by 38%.Either way it doesn't really matter in today's economy. Why you might ask? The stock market is today a casino. A share of stock is held for an average of 3 minutes and of all new capital raised by the market only 15% of it actually gets into the economy. As the numbers Jkloc 420 provided point out the jobs are there and will be there for the people with the raw intelligence to acquire the skills and education needed to fill those jobs and are willing to move to where they are located For those who are not gifted with the required intellect or the freedom to go where the jobs are well, many are going to be hard pressed to experience a life worth living.
More examples of lies, damn lies, and statistics. You know Bacha that when the market crashed in 2008 then rebounded that 38% it was due to it dropping so far it could go nowhere but up. Trump's first year was about anticipation that the corporate rate would be reduced and suffocating regulations rolled back. He delivered on both. The 500 lb gorilla in the room for both presidents is the billions pumped into the market every week from 401k contributions. It's no longer if investors will invest in the stock market, in a particular company that they'll buy and hold in anticipation of that company's success attracting new investors. The market is awash in money looking to invest wherever dividends are being shelled out to make a fast buck. The big funds have to reward their 401k investors so that they'll keep having that little bit taken out every week. So in effect Obama stifled business growth with reams of regulation, but still did ok because of the 401k tide. And Trump has benefited in a short time by doing what Wall Street hoped he and the Repubs would do. If he hadn't most likely there would've been a big downturn, because the best way for Wall Street to take advantage of a big upswing is to cause a big downswing by dumping stocks. And the little guys would've been left holding the bag once they panicked and started selling too.
 
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