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Box Ox

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Where should trans girls compete? They are on hormones that would make competition with men unfair.
So they’re more evenly matched against women than against men once they’ve started hormone therapy? Or is it simply considered inappropriate and offensive to make them compete against men once they’re supposedly real deal women?
 

It will be fine

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So they’re more evenly matched against women than against men once they’ve started hormone therapy? Or is it simply considered inappropriate and offensive to make them compete against men once they’re supposedly real deal women?
Hormones cause real changes in physiology. I think they should compete against who they want to. The wailing about trans women destroying women’s sports is hyperbolic nonsense to elicit an emotional response. I don’t think it’s a big deal to have trans women compete against cis women. I think it’s a minor culture war issue so conservatives have something to cry about.
 

sailfish

Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
Hormones cause real changes in physiology. I think they should compete against who they want to. The wailing about trans women destroying women’s sports is hyperbolic nonsense to elicit an emotional response. I don’t think it’s a big deal to have trans women compete against cis women. I think it’s a minor culture war issue so conservatives have something to cry about.
Yes. I'm sure all the women competing in those sports who object are conservatives looking to wage a culture war just because they need something to bitch about. Lmfao.
 

Box Ox

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I’m sure the majority are. The ones desperately amplifying the stories most definitely are.
New York Times:
“According to World Athletics, track and field’s governing body, the general testosterone range for cisgender women is .12 to 1.79 nanomoles per liter, compared with 7.7 to 29.4 nanomoles per liter for men after puberty. In other words, World Athletics says, the lowest level in the men’s range is four times greater than the highest level in the women’s range.”

“According to new research, which examines available studies of testosterone suppression, evidence shows that even a reduction to one nanomole per liter — squarely within the average female range — only minimally reduces the advantages of muscle mass and strength retained as men transition to women.”

This thread has gotten incredibly stupid and trivial all of a sudden!
Sorry. We just got sidetracked from your own incredible contributions.
 

sailfish

Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
I’m sure the majority are. The ones desperately amplifying the stories most definitely are.
So would it be fair to a 150 pound wrestler to compete against a 250 pound wrestler because the bigger guy is sensitive about his weight and everyone has to stroke his delusions that he isn't actually that heavy, otherwise it would be mean?
 

newfie

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I understand that conservatives care how trans people live. My argument is you shouldn’t. Get over it and let people live how they want to. Don’t try to force your religious worldview on others.
you didnt answer this legitimate concern those high school girls had. for some reason i'm not supposed to care how transies live their lives but you're supposed to be able to preach to me how to live mine?
 
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newfie

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Hormones cause real changes in physiology. I think they should compete against who they want to. The wailing about trans women destroying women’s sports is hyperbolic nonsense to elicit an emotional response. I don’t think it’s a big deal to have trans women compete against cis women. I think it’s a minor culture war issue so conservatives have something to cry about.

that was pathetic
 

wilberforce15

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Trans girls are girls. I’m more concerned about protecting the rights of the minority. Where should trans girls compete? They are on hormones that would make competition with men unfair. Your preferred outcome would be shunning them from sport altogether. They are so few in number that inclusion is the reasonable solution.
They should be told that they are boys, and that closes the issue.
 

vantexan

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Hormones cause real changes in physiology. I think they should compete against who they want to. The wailing about trans women destroying women’s sports is hyperbolic nonsense to elicit an emotional response. I don’t think it’s a big deal to have trans women compete against cis women. I think it’s a minor culture war issue so conservatives have something to cry about.
So all those state track records broken by transgender females is no big deal huh? Those "gals" looked awfully masculine. Guess the hormones hadn't kicked in yet.
 

sailfish

Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
you didnt answer this legitimate concern those high school girls had. for some reason i'm not supposed to care how transies live their lives but you're supposed to be able to preach to me how to live mine?
He has a tendency to ignore questions he doesn't like the answer to.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Some that want to grow a pair, can't.
Some that have a pair, want them sliced off.
Some that should grow a pair, won't.
LGBTQ and the push to accept it as normal behavior has led to all kinds of situations that many never seen coming. What lengths of stupidity people have gone to make stupid be normal.
 

Operational needs

Virescit Vulnere Virtus
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That number seems a little low to me. I don’t understand where all the hate is coming from with you straight guys. Lol.
 

vantexan

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Wow. 12 years old. I wonder how many 12 year olds thought they wanted to be something at 12 and totally became the opposite years later.
It's hip to be gay for the "in" crowd. There are probably parents right now saying "are you sure you're not gay? Can you at least try to be for my sake?"
 
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