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Bad Moon Risen'
The attraction between opposite sexes is for the obvious reason of procreation. If no procreation is possible one has to conclude it's not natural. But this is a free country and people have the right to do what they want as long as they are consenting adults and aren't hurting anyone, and if the state doesn't hold there's a compelling reason to not allow certain acts. In other words if two men want to have sex behind closed doors it's their business. If they want to perform lewd acts in a public restroom, the state has deemed that illegal. As a Christian I believe it's ultimately up to God to decide. I have fallen hard for several lesbians over the years and I hope very much that they're ok with God but I do know what's in the Bible about the subject. However the world that's happening now with openly gay couples, gay marriage, gays adopting children, was unfathomable when I was a kid. I suspect 100 years from now it'll just be another choice that won't even raise an eyebrow. If not sooner.
So when a couple use birth control or a woman reaches menopause and can't procreate is that against your gods law?
 

vantexan

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So when a couple use birth control or a woman reaches menopause and can't procreate is that against your gods law?
No, but you knew that already. I never said that sex must only be for procreation. But the primary reason for attraction between sexes is to encourage procreation. If they aren't attracted to each other we'd soon die out. Procreation isn't possible between two of the same sex so sex happens for other reasons. Draw your own conclusions.
 

vantexan

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I’ll go out on a limb and say you don’t know many gay people.
You'd be wrong. I worked in a lot of locations with gay co-workers as well as gays on my routes. And got to know quite a few lesbians through my lesbian friend. Her girlfriend called me at home one time screaming I wasn't going to take Julie away from her. Some on here just assume older guys were never young, athletic, and dated. Well, at least DIDO doesn't.
 

MAKAVELI

Banned
You'd be wrong. I worked in a lot of locations with gay co-workers as well as gays on my routes. And got to know quite a few lesbians through my lesbian friend. Her girlfriend called me at home one time screaming I wasn't going to take Julie away from her. Some on here just assume older guys were never young, athletic, and dated. Well, at least DIDO doesn't.
Cool story bro.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
No, but you knew that already. I never said that sex must only be for procreation. But the primary reason for attraction between sexes is to encourage procreation. If they aren't attracted to each other we'd soon die out. Procreation isn't possible between two of the same sex so sex happens for other reasons. Draw your own conclusions.
I see guys wanting to hook up with the cute transexuals, cross dressers and even just the pretty boy twinks who would consider themselves straight been with women all their life.

Just saying it doesn’t have to be scientific, if you want to have sex with another consenting person it’s all good. No need to get into gay, straight or whatever.

Also gay men can reproduce, you act like it’s impossible to cum in a vagina for them.
 

vantexan

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I see guys wanting to hook up with the cute transexuals, cross dressers and even just the pretty boy twinks who would consider themselves straight been with women all their life.

Just saying it doesn’t have to be scientific, if you want to have sex with another consenting person it’s all good. No need to get into gay, straight or whatever.

Also gay men can reproduce, you act like it’s impossible to cum in a vagina for them.
Gay sex doesn't reproduce. Gay men having sex with women is heterosexual sex, which can result in reproduction. Do I really need to spell this out? And you miss an important point. Gay men and women have the ability to reproduce heterosexually. To participate in gay sex is to deny what their bodies are naturally designed to do.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
I look back on the history of sexual behavior, male bisexuality was common as far as I know across cultures in the east and west.
Usually between a teenager and an adult male.

I think it’s a more natural state for men.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
Gay sex doesn't reproduce. Gay men having sex with women is heterosexual sex, which can result in reproduction. Do I really need to spell this out? And you miss an important point. Gay men and women have the ability to reproduce heterosexually. To participate in gay sex is to deny what their bodies are naturally designed to do.
Not really, your body is designed to enjoy sex, seeking sex that you enjoy seems pretty natural to me.
 

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Bad Moon Risen'
Gay sex doesn't reproduce. Gay men having sex with women is heterosexual sex, which can result in reproduction. Do I really need to spell this out? And you miss an important point. Gay men and women have the ability to reproduce heterosexually. To participate in gay sex is to deny what their bodies are naturally designed to do.
So is using birth control.
 

vantexan

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So is using birth control.
In my belief system, which you don't share, God never said a husband and wife can't enjoy sex without reproducing. As a matter of fact, the only sex sanctioned by God is between a man and a woman married to each other. So what it comes down to is what we're doing to be pleasing to God. If you don't believe that it's your prerogative. No one is perfect and sexual pleasure trips up most of us, if not all of us, at some point. Catholic priests take a vow of celibacy but we know that's not always true, in a horribly bad way. The thing is, I don't hate someone for practicing homosexuality. I believe he's caught up in a sin. And when sins have feelings of love mixed in they are hard to extricate yourself from. But it's no different to God whether it's that, or marital infidelity, or stealing, lying, etc. Sin is sin. And none of us are perfect.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
In my belief system, which you don't share, God never said a husband and wife can't enjoy sex without reproducing. As a matter of fact, the only sex sanctioned by God is between a man and a woman married to each other. So what it comes down to is what we're doing to be pleasing to God. If you don't believe that it's your prerogative. No one is perfect and sexual pleasure trips up most of us, if not all of us, at some point. Catholic priests take a vow of celibacy but we know that's not always true, in a horribly bad way. The thing is, I don't hate someone for practicing homosexuality. I believe he's caught up in a sin. And when sins have feelings of love mixed in they are hard to extricate yourself from. But it's no different to God whether it's that, or marital infidelity, or stealing, lying, etc. Sin is sin. And none of us are perfect.
I don’t know what’s gayer, all your excuses of falling short of your Christian morales while still viewing homosexuals through that lens or the guys blowing each other without excusing themselves or even caring about your people’s beliefs.
 

vantexan

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I don’t know what’s gayer, all your excuses of falling short of your Christian morales while still viewing homosexuals through that lens or the guys blowing each other without excusing themselves or even caring about your people’s beliefs.
That's what you took away from that? What you're essentially saying is it's something you enjoy so you don't want to hear anything negative. Christianity is about submitting to God's will, not putting what conflicts with God's will before him. No matter what the sin is.
 

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Bad Moon Risen'
In my belief system, which you don't share, God never said a husband and wife can't enjoy sex without reproducing. As a matter of fact, the only sex sanctioned by God is between a man and a woman married to each other. So what it comes down to is what we're doing to be pleasing to God. If you don't believe that it's your prerogative. No one is perfect and sexual pleasure trips up most of us, if not all of us, at some point. Catholic priests take a vow of celibacy but we know that's not always true, in a horribly bad way. The thing is, I don't hate someone for practicing homosexuality. I believe he's caught up in a sin. And when sins have feelings of love mixed in they are hard to extricate yourself from. But it's no different to God whether it's that, or marital infidelity, or stealing, lying, etc. Sin is sin. And none of us are perfect.
Was your god married to Mary when he impregnated her. If not then he could be considered a hypocrite. Do as I say not as I do?
 
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