LGBTQ

[El Correcto]

You can stop schooling me about bias, how gay men come in all shapes and colors and have beards at the gym ( straight men too?), bigotry
I never hyper focused on anything.. Van may have used a moral argument ..haven't read his post.. My argument was not about morality.

Interesting you can't separate all that. You obsessed to the point you can't discuss logic and reason?

May be some credit due here you are not seeing . There is a difference in someone who is tempted to engage in a homosexual act but chooses not to and one that chooses to engage and practice ( give yourself to it). He is not living a lie.. he knows what he is tempted to do but refuses because it will violate his conscience , morals, whatever.

Your argument for gay men living in the closet instead of acting on NATURAL desires.

 

[El Correcto]

So let me get this straight. You have nothing morally against homosexuality and can’t prove it’s not a natural act humans have done since recorded history, yet you still want to argue with me about what exactly? @TheBrownFlush

The fact that it isn’t natural without any evidence?

 

[BrownFlush]

Your argument for gay men living in the closet instead of acting on NATURAL desires.

What if me acting on NATURAL desires to murder? Does that make me murdering you Natural because I was acting on things that come NATURAL to me?

 

[BrownFlush]

So let me get this straight. You have nothing morally against homosexuality and can’t prove it’s not a natural act humans have done since recorded history, yet you still want to argue with me about what exactly? @TheBrownFlush

The fact that it isn’t natural without any evidence?

You miss.

 

[It will be fine]

With any attitude. Not going to happen today. It was done once and only once.

Oh what little faith you have. Miracles won’t ever happen again. Sad.

It’s not natural for a supreme being to impregnate a virgin, but I guess that’s ok with you, so long as 2 dudes don’t kiss. Lulz.

 

[BrownFlush]

You miss.

So let me get this straight. You have nothing morally against homosexuality

Never addressed that or said that

and can’t prove it’s not a natural act humans have done since recorded history

Never set out to prove it was a natural act of humans..you did.. I simply stated because something is practiced for how ever the length of time by whoever, does not prove that it is natural .. and time will not change the unnatural to natural .

yet you still want to argue with me about what exactly?

Argue?.. Just responding.
[QUOTE="Wrong, post: 3840618, member: 60631"The fact that it isn’t natural without any evidence?[/QUOTE]
The evidence I used was nature and design. Though I never talked about design that much. That being said..a mans design is perfect for a woman and a woman design is perfect for a man. Again, a stinkin' possum has enough sense to know what fits where.

 

[BrownFlush]

Oh what little faith you have. Miracles won’t ever happen again. Sad.

It’s not natural for a supreme being to impregnate a virgin, but I guess that’s ok with you, so long as 2 dudes don’t kiss. Lulz.

Impugn thoughts and motives..have fun.

 

[El Correcto]

Never addressed that or said that

Never set out to prove it was a natural act of humans..you did.. I simply stated because something is practiced for how ever the length of time by whoever, does not prove that it is natural .. and time will not change the unnatural to natural .

Argue?.. Just responding.
[QUOTE="Wrong, post: 3840618, member: 60631"The fact that it isn’t natural without any evidence?

The evidence I used was nature and design. Though I never talked about design that much. That being said..a mans design is perfect for a woman and a woman design is perfect for a man. Again, a stinkin' possum has enough sense to know what fits where.[/QUOTE]
Like I said before hyperfocused on one aspect of biology. Not taking in to account all factors of motivation for sex.

All I see is you tripping over yourself to disassociate yourself from a bad argument against a naturally occuring aspect of sex.

Design? Take my word other men work just fine by design for my purpose.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Sorry man.. I thought IT was a man.. Thanks

I'm a women, at least on the weekends ...

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Oh what little faith you have. Miracles won’t ever happen again. Sad.

Straw man argument.

In the straw man fallacy, someone attacks a position the opponent doesn’t really hold. Instead of contending with the actual argument, he or she instead attacks the equivalent of a lifeless bundle of straw, an easily defeated effigy, which the opponent never intended upon defending anyway.

It’s not natural for a supreme being to impregnate a virgin, but I guess that’s ok with you, so long as 2 dudes don’t kiss. Lulz.

Another straw man argument.

 

[floridays]

So let me get this straight. You have nothing morally against homosexuality and can’t prove it’s not a natural act humans have done since recorded history, yet you still want to argue with me about what exactly? @TheBrownFlush

The fact that it isn’t natural without any evidence?

Just jumped in, this is my first look today at the thread and would like my bite.
From recorded history no culture, at all has condoned homosexuality or same sex marriage or couplings, for their greater culture. Where did our current insight as to what is good, better or proper for current cultures, or civilization as a whole find it's roots?

The fact it isn't natural is two human parts are not used for the intended purpose. You aren't that ignorant and that leads me to further assumptions. You can run with that statement wherever it will take you, and I'll bet you are wrong. No pun intended.

 

[El Correcto]

Just jumped in, this is my first look today at the thread and would like my bite.
From recorded history no culture, at all has condoned homosexuality or same sex marriage or couplings, for their greater culture. Where did our current insight as to what is good, better or proper for current cultures, or civilization as a whole find it's roots?

The fact it isn't natural is two human parts are not used for the intended purpose. You aren't that ignorant and that leads me to further assumptions. You can run with that statement wherever it will take you, and I'll bet you are wrong. No pun intended.

This is wrong, you need to look up Rome, Greece and japan to name the few I've looked at. Bisexuality and sex between men was common and accepted during times of those societies.

Intended purpose? Who intended what? If it didn’t feel good and there isn’t a desire there wouldn’t be gay sex. Your designer view on the world isn’t mine, I don’t see things with divine purpose or design.

 

[vantexan]

Boys choose to be effeminate so they can get beat up all through their school years and end up in some camp training them to be men? Alrighty then.

Amazes me too!

 

[floridays]

This is wrong, you need to look up Rome, Greece and japan to name the few I've looked at. Bisexuality and sex between men was common and accepted during times of those societies.

Intended purpose? Who intended what? If it didn’t feel good and there isn’t a desire there wouldn’t be gay sex. Your designer view on the world isn’t mine, I don’t see things with divine purpose or design.

Thank you for walking into it, exactly what has happened to these civilizations. I wasn't aware of Japan, I should be more diligent and will follow up. I do thank you for glowing examples however.

I do see things with divine purpose and design.
I can go further on this as well. I'm sure you wouldn't accept it and that would be a tie to the "further assumptions" I mentioned in the post you responded to.

 

[El Correcto]

Thank you for walking into it, exactly what has happened to these civilizations. I wasn't aware of Japan, I should be more diligent and will follow up. I do thank you for glowing examples however.

I do see things with divine purpose and design.
I can go further on this as well. I'm sure you wouldn't accept it and that would be a tie to the "further assumptions" I mentioned in the post you responded to.

Gay sex didn’t cause the fall of ancient civilizations... that’s a pretty dumb opinion.

This conversation is worthless. You guys just skirt around the edge of some westboro god hates fags opinion on homosexuality.

 

[El Correcto]

Just commit and say how you really feel, no need to waste time not being yourself.

 

[vantexan]

Just commit and say how you really feel, no need to waste time not being yourself.

God hates sin, loves the sinner.

 

[floridays]

Gay sex didn’t cause the fall of ancient civilizations... that’s a pretty dumb opinion.

This conversation is worthless. You guys just skirt around the edge of some westboro god hates fags opinion on homosexuality.

Thanks for telling me what I think, I'm not a "you guys," I think for myself. You are making my assumptions more clear and I think correct.
You figure it out, you'll quite likely be correct this time however.

 

[floridays]

Just commit and say how you really feel, no need to waste time not being yourself.

Was this directed to me? If so I have absolutely no problem answering. I'm always myself, that is the reason I find myself in the mod que, and not a good attribute, but I'm better than I once was.

 

[DriveInDriѵeOut]

God hates sin, loves the sinner.

Which god?