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El Correcto

El Correcto

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Box Ox said:
She's right. Democrats shouldn't be talking about their looney tunes transgender agenda with an election coming up. People with functioning prefrontal cortexes who aren't pledged to a political tribe (moderates) will not vote to support it.
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They should run Bernie.
Hail Mary it all the way to loony tunes land, promise revolution. Only way they are gonna win 2024, midterms are already a lost cause but a Bernie Sander ticket might win it back for them if this country really does go into a recession depression and people start losing homes.
 
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vantexan

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El Correcto said:
They should run Bernie.
Hail Mary it all the way to loony tunes land, promise revolution. Only way they are gonna win 2024, midterms are already a lost cause but a Bernie Sander ticket might win it back for them if this country really does go into a recession depression and people start losing homes.
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I think most voters would realize it was Democratic policies that got them into this mess and won't double down by electing a socialist. They bought their ideas and elected Biden and are paying for it. The Democrats/Progressives/Socialists have done more to hurt their own brand than Republicans could ever do.
 
Thebrownblob

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El Correcto said:
They should run Bernie.
Hail Mary it all the way to loony tunes land, promise revolution. Only way they are gonna win 2024, midterms are already a lost cause but a Bernie Sander ticket might win it back for them if this country really does go into a recession depression and people start losing homes.
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Will Bernie be alive in 2024?
 
El Correcto

El Correcto

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vantexan said:
I think most voters would realize it was Democratic policies that got them into this mess and won't double down by electing a socialist. They bought their ideas and elected Biden and are paying for it. The Democrats/Progressives/Socialists have done more to hurt their own brand than Republicans could ever do.
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What are they gonna do, stick Kamala up there like Walter Mondale if Biden don’t run? That would be a disaster.
They run Bernie on universal healthcare, isolationism, abortion, securing the border, anti-corporate greed, etc. promise revolution, let the socialists finally get their chance to lose a presidential bid so they will shut up, then become more moderate but maintain universal healthcare as your key issue to beat republicans on.
 
Operational needs

Operational needs

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Thebrownblob said:
It was absolutely unfair for this beast of a man, to come in and destroy what these young ladies worked so hard for.
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Agreed. Imagine working for something your whole life and realizing that you will never achieve it. Not because of something you did or didn’t do, but because a “former man” decides he’s not good enough for the men’s team and becomes a woman. Or he just decides he's been in the wrong body his whole life. While I have sympathy for trans people, the rights of the born females should always come first.
 
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El Correcto said:
It’s crossing the line into child abuse territory.
I know parents will take desperate action to help their kids and I believe there are transgendered kids with really no good treatment options.

It’s disingenuous to say these people are just going with a kid declaring he is a fire truck. Like if your kid starts drinking motor oil it might be comparable. These little trans kids do suffer.
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It’s debateable the reasons why they suffer. Young children don’t even know what gender is, or at least they shouldn’t. People just can’t wait to start educating their kids, how about we let them be children first. Kids can’t handle this stuff. My kids will not touch an iPhone untill they are least 18. At least one with a data plan. They start learning this stuff at an early age and unfortunately ideas get put in their head. Same way with guns I am all for the right to bear arms with no restrictions. But as a parent you need shield your child from them at an early age and not glorify them, that’s called an idol. All this political glorification of things the other side doesn’t like just to smite them is doing our children harm. Parents used to be responsible and protect their kids and teach them when they became of age. Now the ones that want to teach are doing it right out of the womb, and then there are the ones who want nothing to do with parenting.
 
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Operational needs said:
Agreed. Imagine working for something your whole life and realizing that you will never achieve it. Not because of something you did or didn’t do, but because a “former man” decides he’s not good enough for the men’s team and becomes a woman. Or he just decides he's been in the wrong body his whole life. While I have sympathy for trans people, the rights of the born females should always come first.
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Men, it’s just men. Nothing former about them.
 
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vantexan said:
I think most voters would realize it was Democratic policies that got them into this mess and won't double down by electing a socialist. They bought their ideas and elected Biden and are paying for it. The Democrats/Progressives/Socialists have done more to hurt their own brand than Republicans could ever do.
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Mail in ballots. They’re not real elections anymore. I still say trump won in 2020, they can get whatever result they want out of mail in ballots. Nobody sees who cast the vote, it literally could be anybody. Not to mention ballot harvesting, they’ll just go door to door, and the ones who don’t vote (which there are a ton of) they’ll just mark them down for whoever they want. Our elections are a sham anymore.
 
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vantexan

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El Correcto said:
What are they gonna do, stick Kamala up there like Walter Mondale if Biden don’t run? That would be a disaster.
They run Bernie on universal healthcare, isolationism, abortion, securing the border, anti-corporate greed, etc. promise revolution, let the socialists finally get their chance to lose a presidential bid so they will shut up, then become more moderate but maintain universal healthcare as your key issue to beat republicans on.
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You really think they're able to moderate themselves? We would be in a spending orgy right now if not for a couple of reasonable Senators. And securing the border? They're going to run on securing the border they left wide open? You're really not politically savvy huh? That's as bad as Hillary openly proclaiming she'd destroy the coal industry to make all her far left supporters happy while not realizing she really needed those coal country votes.
 
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El Correcto said:
What are they gonna do, stick Kamala up there like Walter Mondale if Biden don’t run? That would be a disaster.
They run Bernie on universal healthcare, isolationism, abortion, securing the border, anti-corporate greed, etc. promise revolution, let the socialists finally get their chance to lose a presidential bid so they will shut up, then become more moderate but maintain universal healthcare as your key issue to beat republicans on.
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Both would be a nightmare. Unfortunately it’s all very possible
 
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vantexan

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Non liberal said:
Mail in ballots. They’re not real elections anymore. I still say trump won in 2020, they can get whatever result they want out of mail in ballots. Nobody sees who cast the vote, it literally could be anybody. Not to mention ballot harvesting, they’ll just go door to door, and the ones who don’t vote (which there are a ton of) they’ll just mark them down for whoever they want. Our elections are a sham anymore.
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Pretty sure a lot of that has been restructured to prevent fraud in quite a few states. If inflation continues and a Democrat wins then yes, there was massive fraud.
 
El Correcto

El Correcto

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Non liberal said:
It’s debateable the reasons why they suffer. Young children don’t even know what gender is, or at least they shouldn’t. People just can’t wait to start educating their kids, how about we let them be children first. Kids can’t handle this stuff. My kids will not touch an iPhone untill they are least 18. At least one with a data plan. They start learning this stuff at an early age and unfortunately ideas get put in their head. Same way with guns I am all for the right to bear arms with no restrictions. But as a parent you need shield your child from them at an early age and not glorify them, that’s called an idol. All this political glorification of things the other side doesn’t like just to smite them is doing our children harm. Parents used to be responsible and protect their kids and teach them when they became of age. Now the ones that want to teach are doing it right out of the womb, and then there are the ones who want nothing to do with parenting.
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I agree it is stupid to teach children they can be any gender they want and don’t want it taught in schools. Rapid onset gender dysphoria is real and you are opening up other mentally ill kids to go down that path. But gender dysphoria is also real and kids suffer that from a young age without anyone mentioning it to them.

Most people on the left’s hearts, yet again, are in the right place. They want to love and accept, but they just aren’t big picture thinkers or long term thinkers. It’s fine to give children who suffer this love and care, but it’s not a good idea to teach this to all children and put it in their heads.
 
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