LGBTQ

[BrownArmy]

Sorry..yes they can.
Documented fact.

Documented...from the 1950’s?

Queen please.

 

[BrownFlush]

That’s a fair question. Engaging in gay behavior is a choice. Gay men are also physically capable of fathering children, marrying women and living as a straight man. Those gay desires will always be there.

Picture yourself married to a man. Sure you are physically capable of having gay sex with him and living a loyal lifestyle(I’m being a generous here.) but deep down you’ll always notice that cute girl serving your man Starbucks coffee or that female coworker your close to. In your mind you will always be unsatisfied and focused on women. Your sexuality hasn’t changed, you’re not a gay man even though you are living a gay lifestyle. It’s not a happy way to live in my opinion, I think I’d rather kill myself than suffer a life of self rape and no sexual gratification.

Another example would be straight guys who do gay porn. They aren’t gay because they suck dicks for money. They are still straight men attracted only to women.

Finally.. WrongDong, I knew it was in you.
Now we can talk about inclination, right, wrong, morality , culture, time, family etc.....Whole other ball game.
I don't pretend to know the battle, it's not my battle...
Tommy is real..he has impacted our family big time..he is divorced now because he trying to make a go of it. Unreal and tough.

 

[BrownFlush]

Could you ‘choose’ to be gay?

Give it up..you're embarrassing yourself.

 

[BrownFlush]

Documented...from the 1950’s?

Sorry..about 1,950 minutes ago

 

[El Correcto]

Finally.. WrongDong, I knew it was in you.
Now we can talk about inclination, right, wrong, morality , culture, time, family etc.....Whole other ball game.
I don't pretend to know the battle, it's not my battle...
Tommy is real..he has impacted our family big time..he is divorced now because he trying to make a go of it. Unreal and tough.

I don’t need to discuss any of those things with you. I’ve acknowledged all of this before, we still didn’t reach an understanding. You conflate sexual behavior with sexuality. I will never be with a woman, doesn’t do it for me. Your bible isn’t even worth toilet paper in my eyes, I see nothing morally wrong with my personal choice to live happily as a gay man as I was born, if I wanted kids I can adopt kids. I really don’t agree with authoritarian culture preaching to me about things that don’t directly effect them.

 

[BrownArmy]

Give it up..you're embarrassing yourself.

Well, if what you think is true, that homosexuals are making a ‘choice’ to be gay, then that ‘choice’ is open to you as a heterosexual, isn’t it?

I know that you know that I know that you’re ridiculous.

Could you choose to be gay?

I’m employing your logic and you say I’m embarrassing myself, ‘nuff said.

 

[BrownArmy]

Sorry..about 1,950 minutes ago

Source?

 

[BrownFlush]

Well, if what you think is true, that homosexuals are making a ‘choice’ to be gay, then that ‘choice’ is open to you as a heterosexual, isn’t it?

It sure is.

 

[El Correcto]

Well, if what you think is true, that homosexuals are making a ‘choice’ to be gay, then that ‘choice’ is open to you as a heterosexual, isn’t it?

I know that you know that I know that you’re ridiculous.

Could you choose to be gay?

I’m employing your logic and you say I’m embarrassing myself, ‘nuff said.

He believes I’m gay because I have sex with men. He is viewing it on a surface level. He doesn’t recognize I could bang women and still be attracted solely to men, because I am gay.

He thinks gay men should self rape themselves in heterosexual relationships and build families off of that. Lmao.

 

[BrownArmy]

It sure is.

So you could choose to be gay?

(Think this through, don’t just fire off an answer)...

 

[El Correcto]

If I was forced into a heterosexual relationship it wouldn’t end in happily ever after.

It would end in “and then he turned the gun on himself.”

 

[El Correcto]

So you could choose to be gay?

(Think this through, don’t just fire off an answer)...

What he is saying is correct. I could choose not to have gay relationships with men.

He isn’t correct in thinking I could choose not to be gay and want those relationships.

 

[BrownArmy]

He believes I’m gay because I have sex with men. He is viewing it on a surface level. He doesn’t recognize I could bang women and still be attracted solely to men, because I am gay.

He thinks gay men should self rape themselves in heterosexual relationships and build families off of that. Lmao.

I’ll take him at his word when he says that he thinks homosexuality is a ‘choice’.

Obviously that narrative breaks down immediately: his heterosexuality is no more a choice for him than either of our individual sexuality’s is for us.

Maybe it’s the Bible, or his parents, or maybe he’s in the closet, who knows.

Really doesn’t matter, he lost me at King James.

 

[El Correcto]

I’ll take him at his word when he says that he thinks homosexuality is a ‘choice’.

Obviously that narrative breaks down immediately: his heterosexuality is no more a choice for him than either of our individual sexuality’s is for us.

Maybe it’s the Bible, or his parents, or maybe he’s in the closet, who knows.

Really doesn’t matter, he lost me at King James.

That’s just it, he is a negative IQ individual who thinks the sex you have is your sexuality. If you can just have sex with the opposite gender your sexuality changes in his mind.

He doesn’t realize that sexuality for most people is set in stone. You can have any kind of sex you’re physically capable of having, your sexuality will remain.

He views himself as heterosexual based off the sex he has apparently, he doesn’t try to put the shoe on the other foot and think about what if someone proposed to you that you had to be gay to be morally right.

This is the root of my Gay Jesus rants. I’m highlighting the absurdity of it all.

 

[BrownFlush]

I don’t need to discuss any of those things with you.

Nor do I.

I don’t need to discuss any of those things with you. I will never be with a woman, doesn’t do it for me. I see nothing morally wrong with my personal choice to live happily as a gay man

Your choice .

That’s a fair question. Engaging in gay behavior is a choice.

That is the opposite of this..

to live happily as a gay man as I was born,

I really don’t agree with authoritarian culture preaching to me about things that don’t directly effect them.

Everything a society accepts, good and bad, effects everybody eventually.
No preaching, pretty factual.

 

[BrownArmy]

It’s why I keep asking him if he could choose to be gay.

He couldn’t, really, ‘cause he’s not gay.

He’s unwilling or unable to apply to himself the framework that he’s applied to you.

It’s funny though, the hetero men who really get fired up about gay men...

 

[El Correcto]

It’s why I keep asking him if he could choose to be gay.

He couldn’t, really, ‘cause he’s not gay.

He’s unwilling or unable to apply to himself the framework that he’s applied to you.

It’s funny though, the hetero men who really get fired up about gay men...

Yes, he can’t choose to be gay. That’s silly. He can choose to have some gay sex though and enjoy his bisexuality.

 

[El Correcto]

Nor do I.
Your choice .

That is the opposite of this..

Everything a society accepts, good and bad, effects everybody eventually.
No preaching, pretty factual.

Sexual behavior is the same thing as sexuality. Imagine having an IQ low enough to view the world this way.

 

[BrownFlush]

He believes I’m gay because I have sex with men. He is viewing it on a surface level. He doesn’t recognize I could bang women and still be attracted solely to men, because I am gay.
Wrong here.

He thinks gay men should self rape themselves in heterosexual relationships and build families off of that. Lmao.

Wrong here.
If I believe that something is morally wrong, but have more of an inclination than the average Joe to do it any way ( not limiting this to homosexuality, could be anything, stealing, lying, etc) I dont consider it self rape to make the effort to do what I think is right.

If I was forced into a heterosexual relationship it wouldn’t end in happily ever after.
It would end in “and then he turned the gun on himself.”

Tough.

What he is saying is correct. I could choose not to have gay relationships with men.

He isn’t correct in thinking I could choose not to be gay and want those relationships.

Wrong here.
Never said the inclination and the desire would not be there.

That’s just it, he is a negative IQ individual who thinks the sex you have is your sexuality. If you can just have sex with the opposite gender your sexuality changes in his mind.
Wrong here.

He doesn’t realize that sexuality for most people is set in stone. You can have any kind of sex you’re physically capable of having, your sexuality will remain.
You can have it and yep, your sexuality will be the same.

He views himself as heterosexual based off the sex he has apparently, he doesn’t try to put the shoe on the other foot and think about what if someone proposed to you that you had to be gay to be morally right.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Reference The Tom.

This is the root of my Gay Jesus rants. I’m highlighting the absurdity of it all.

There is no absurdity with a person having inclinations that he believes are morally wrong and him making a choice not to give into those temptations.
It's much easier to say .. I was made this way, neg IQ guy, Bible banger, etc. And do what ever you want and attack anyone who would question the behavior.

 

[El Correcto]

This isn’t a choice

This is

Hope this clears up any confusion, you’re really struggling the grasp this very basic concept.