Local 804 Drivers Walked Out

[kingOFchester]

Things are bad in my bubble. Bonus is a union killer.

They need to get rid of bonus. Bonus encourages drivers not to follow the methods. Result, good numbers for management. Then those who follow the methods get harassed for not making the numbers. Unfortunately, runners out number methoders by a lot.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Exactly we gotta stand behind our guys for sure.

I always do.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

By "starting early", do you mean that he was on the belt sorting his pkg car or did he actually change his start time and proceed to start his delivery route?

It is hard for me to say whether I support the walkout without knowing the general atmosphere and morale in the building.

I can say that a coordinated walkout like this would never happen in my building.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I asked this is another thread---does the policy pay if the termination(s) is (are) justified?

 

[DukeofBoxes]

I watched the you tube and it sounded like they fired the driver for starting before his start time and that was dishonest. To me that means he was performing work before his start time, if I remember what the old timers said R Carey would chase drivers off the line before their start time and chew them out. If it is what it appears this guy pulls a walk out!

If this is true, remember this the next time a sup asks you to punch in early for CBTs, without you being scheduled on Thursday the week before!

 

[DukeofBoxes]

I heard the same thing

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It seems the video has been removed.

 

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By "starting early", do you mean that he was on the belt sorting his pkg car or did he actually change his start time and proceed to start his delivery route?

It is hard for me to say whether I support the walkout without knowing the general atmosphere and morale in the building.

I can say that a coordinated walkout like this would never happen in my building.

As it wouldn't happen at my building either. A couple hundred drivers is a statement. My 22 drivers not so much. Wish we had this for the vote of the contract.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

As it wouldn't happen at my building either. A couple hundred drivers is a statement. My 22 drivers not so much. Wish we had this for the vote of the contract.

We had a casual get fired on Tuesday and another one yesterday. Today will be business as usual.

 

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If this is true, remember this the next time a sup asks you to punch in early for CBTs, without you being scheduled on Thursday the week before!

Isn't it the stewards job to walk the belt and tell drivers to get out of their vehicles. To end such nonsense. UPS should have said something to union reps or mentioned in PCM 's? Not just fire away

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Our steward shows up 1 minute before start time.

 

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We had a casual get fired on Tuesday and another one yesterday. Today will be business as usual.

Didn't you say your building got a new center manager? Trying to make an impression. Maybe? We had one of those guys down here once. He was gone in 6 mos. No one lost their job

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Didn't you say your building got a new center manager? Trying to make an impression. Maybe? We had one of those guys down here once. He was gone in 6 mos. No one lost their job

Yeah, we have a new sheriff in town---3 firings thus far.

 

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Our steward shows up 1 minute before start time.

Assistant steward then? Pt steward. High seniority driver? Oh wait --you?

 

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Before you ask. Yes I do walk the belt. If steward isn't around yet

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Before you ask. Yes I do walk the belt. If steward isn't around yet

...and if you were to say something to me I would politely but firmly tell you to mind your own business...


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[bottomups]

...and if you were to say something to me I would politely but firmly tell you to mind your own business...


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....and then I would file a greivance for all your hours worked before start time.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Isn't it the stewards job to walk the belt and tell drivers to get out of their vehicles. To end such nonsense. UPS should have said something to union reps or mentioned in PCM 's? Not just fire away

It is the center manager job to enforce the prohibition on employees working off the clock. Violation of Federal Labor law.

 

[upschuck]

It is the center manager job to enforce the prohibition on employees working off the clock. Violation of Federal Labor law.

Evidently he did enforce this, a bit over the top, though. I assume that this was not the first time this driver had problems with the center manager, and he was looking for an excuse to walk him out.

 

[QKRSTKR]

Isn't it the stewards job to walk the belt and tell drivers to get out of their vehicles. To end such nonsense. UPS should have said something to union reps or mentioned in PCM 's? Not just fire away

No. It's the companies responsibility. It's in the master contract.

 

[PT Car Washer]

I agree his reaction was way over the top. Our center manager told the drivers during PCM progressive discipline would be used. Driver still show up early and sort their loads. He said all that to keep the Union happy.