JL 0513
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DOT rules here. Not sure what contract says but we have to abide by state and DOT regulations. Simple and plain, at least 30 minutes lunch every 6 hours of work.
DOT rules here. Not sure what contract says but we have to abide by state and DOT regulations. Simple and plain, at least 30 minutes lunch every 6 hours of work.
redrooster
WOOF WOOF
Law here too Texas
MethodsMan
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The law specifies whether you should get paid for your 30 minute lunch or not?
jumpman23
Oh Yeah
And all the numbers for the routes are not based on any physical time study either, hence my point. A bunch of made up numbers by a virtual time study that doesn't give any time allowances for the things that it should such as, crappy idiotic loads, crappy idiotic dispatches, sort time, idiot dol's and edds that are all cut up, no time allowance for over 100lbs, I could go on all day about their shadiness and lies.
scooby0048
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In our center it's a paid 10 minute break and 50 unpaid.
JL 0513
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It may be company specific, however most jobs don't have paid lunches. The law doesn't specify as it's not the law's place to do so. Up to the business to pay or not. Our lunches are not paid of course, but we are still required to record our lunches. Do I understand your question?
JL 0513
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That's the weirdest combo I've heard yet.
scooby0048
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I think it's statewide here, as the other center I was at also followed this practice.
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BrownTexas
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Department of Transportation says you cannot work more than 8 hours driving a CMV without having a consecutive 30 minute off-duty break.
MethodsMan
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Correct.
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30yearstolife
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But we are talking about long term numbers here (entire career at UPS). If you look at the total return on investment for the DOW or S&P for any 25 year period you will find that 8% anuall return is a very conservative number...(actually way to low) For example you would have averaged 10.27% per year over the 25 years prior to 2013 (in the broad market S&P stocks). Those 25 years were by no means stellar.
Here are the average annual returns for any 25 year period ending in 1994-2013
(1994...10.98%) (1995...12.22%) (1996...12.55%) (1997...13.07%) (1998...14.94%) (1999...17.25%) (2000...15.34%) (2001...13.78%) (2002...12.98%) (2003...13.84%) (2004...13.54%) (2005...12.48%) (2006...13.37%) (2007...12.73%) (2008...9.77%) (2009...10.54%) (2010...9.94%) (2011...9.28%) (2012...9.71%) (2013...10.27%)
For an median of 12.98% and an average of 12.43% average annual return.
USING THE HISTORICALLY MORE ACCURATE 12.43% AVERAGE RETURN means that one hour of overtime would grow to...
Your total is $8,018,341 after 35 years.
You can now see how conservative I was being in my assumptions.
An 8 million dollar pat on the back. Give them 10 minutes a day, and you are giving them 1.3 million over your career.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S&P_500
http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/retirement/401-k-retirement-calculator.aspx
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brostalss
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Lunch time is nap time. UPS pays me to take a nice little cat nap. I have my spot in some shade, crack the rear door, hold the bulk head door half open with a hub snake, lay down some stalls bags on the shelf, find a soft bag, lay my towel over it, set my alarm and it's nap time.
Feel like a champ for the afternoon pick ups and final stops.
Feel like a champ for the afternoon pick ups and final stops.
That is so true Jumpman, all of our SPORH's include our 45-75 minutes sort times AND our paid breaks! Can you say "WTF"??? I refuse to look at their #'s anymore!
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30yearstolife
Guest
Yep,
I won't set up my load, get supplies. sort, talk to the boss about my day or do anything off the clock. A nap is a good idea.
I won't set up my load, get supplies. sort, talk to the boss about my day or do anything off the clock. A nap is a good idea.
redrooster
WOOF WOOF
WTF are you a driver? Warren Buffet what are you doing on this site?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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What we need is for local management to make this an issue in their centers. Telematics flags those drivers who work during their meals/breaks. Progressive discipline, up to and including termination, would quickly put an end to this practice. We all know that this won't happen as they love the free labor so perhaps the Union needs to step up and address this issue.
BrownTexas
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I'd love to do that. I'd be dead by the time I woke up in the summer time with the back being over 120 degrees.
Tired Driver
Sisyphus had it easy.
Bro- I do the same thing.
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