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vantexan

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And those are all after Christianity.
Dude, Jesus was a Jew. Judaism. Understand? Every corner of the world developed religions to explain the world around them. Long before Jesus was born. As Christians we accept that there's one true God, and Jesus is his son. Even in the 10 commandments they were told to not have any other god before him.
 

wilberforce15

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Dude, Jesus was a Jew. Judaism. Understand? Every corner of the world developed religions to explain the world around them. Long before Jesus was born. As Christians we accept that there's one true God, and Jesus is his son. Even in the 10 commandments they were told to not have any other god before him.
No, Christianity recognizes that all men are saved one, and only one, Savior, and anyone who was saved prior to His death and resurrection was saved by their hope in the savior to come. They were Christians, who believed in deliverance, resurrection, perfect sacrifice, etc. before they happened. Their faith looked forward rather than back, but it was Christianity.
 

vantexan

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No, Christianity recognizes that all men are saved one, and only one, Savior, and anyone who was saved prior to His death and resurrection was saved by their hope in the savior to come. They were Christians, who believed in deliverance, resurrection, perfect sacrifice, etc. before they happened. Their faith looked forward rather than back, but it was Christianity.
The Church was established on the Day of Pentecost, 33 A.D. There is no documented evidence of Christianity anywhere before then. And people in places like what are now India and China were practicing religions that are nothing like Christianity.
 

wilberforce15

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The Church was established in the Day of Pentecost, 33 A.D. There is no documented evidence of Christianity anywhere before then. And people in places like what are now India and China were practicing religions that are nothing like Christianity.
If Christianity is defined as belief in the death, burial, and resurrection of a savior who is God in the flesh, then Christianity existed for thousands of years before Christ.

What was going to happen was spelled out quite clearly. And the people who believed it were Christians.
 

vantexan

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If Christianity is defined as belief in the death, burial, and resurrection of a savior who is God in the flesh, then Christianity existed for thousands of years before Christ.

What was going to happen was spelled out quite clearly. And the people who believed it were Christians.
You're talking about the Old Testament. Christianity is the new covenant between God and Man that was established when Christ died on the cross and was ressurected. The Jews of the Old Testament were under the Old covenant, and competed with other groups who believed in other gods, like Baal. In other parts of the world they were practicing totally different things.
 

wilberforce15

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You're talking about the Old Testament. Christianity is the new covenant between God and Man that was established when Christ died on the cross and was ressurected. The Jews of the Old Testament were under the Old covenant, and competed with other groups who believed in other gods, like Baal. In other parts of the world they were practicing totally different things.
No, Jews in the Old Testament were saved by grace, through faith, the same as any other.
 

wilberforce15

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They practiced Passover. Do we practice Passover?
That's a practice, not a means of salvation. Were they saved by works? Or by grace through faith in a sacrificed, and risen, savior?

They were saved by faith in the savior to come. That's Christianity. The Old Covenant gave no provision for salvation whatsoever. The blood of bulls and goats doesn't take away sin.
 

vantexan

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That's a practice, not a means of salvation. Were they saved by works? Or by grace through faith in a sacrificed, and risen, savior?

They were saved by faith in the savior to come. That's Christianity. The Old Covenant gave no provision for salvation whatsoever. The blood of bulls and goats doesn't take away sin.
And yet most of them didn't recognize Christ as the Messiah yet you're trying to make the Christians anyways.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
If humans got started through creation by that first couple Adam and Eve, how exactly did they procreate if they weren't boinking each other?

Cain was afraid that other people would try to kill him after he killed his brother, Abel. Who were these other people? His brothers and sisters? Couldn't have been too many around.
 
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