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The wait to drive?In 177 the wait time to go fulltime inside is like 8 or 9 years
The wait to drive?In 177 the wait time to go fulltime inside is like 8 or 9 years
Why would college kids stay when they are going to college
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them when you finally get on you don’t work everyday and get the crappy cut routes…fun timesI waited 7 1/2 or two then had a two-year progression. So basically 10 years to top scale.
You would be surprised how many newer drivers aren’t even getting the hours in per year to make a full pension credit…because of all the days they are taking off…They definitely don't want to work overtime
No doubt they need to bump up the part-time pay
The only problem is these part-timers many of them do not wish to go full timethwre
In our building 22.3 jobs would take 20 years part time seniority to fill. Now starting last year it’s dwindled down to off the street because of how they do them now. Before it was easy job like small sort or clerking or janitorial and now it’s load/load or unload/load. I believe this is because they can’t keep part timers at those spots and this is ups new way of keeping staff.No doubt they need to bump up the part-time pay
The only problem is these part-timers many of them do not wish to go full time
Same in our building with 22.3 full timers 3/4 of them are not getting pension credit due to calling in or going home.You would be surprised how many newer drivers aren’t even getting the hours in per year to make a full pension credit…because of all the days they are taking off…
We all had to put our time inThanks Cronkite
them when you finally get on you don’t work everyday and get the crappy cut routes…fun times
Well, I don’t know that that’s any different than it’s ever been, my first 2 1/2 years as a cover driver I spent until April in the building because I was laid off and then after that I was bounced around from route to route like a cheap floozy. But management never misunderstood that I wanted to work every day, and I was never asked to go home because they knew I would not. I was willing to go out and fail every route. They put me on blind L O L. And boy did I fail…. A lot.Thanks Cronkite
them when you finally get on you don’t work everyday and get the crappy cut routes…fun times
And you still do...Well, I don’t know that that’s any different than it’s ever been, my first 2 1/2 years as a cover driver I spent until April in the building because I was laid off and then after that I was bounced around from route to route like a cheap floozy. But management never misunderstood that I wanted to work every day, and I was never asked to go home because they knew I would not. I was willing to go out and fail every route. They put me on blind L O L. And boy did I fail…. A lot.
True… all I was saying is that it was a long road to get into a “decent” pkg route…at least back when we startedWell, I don’t know that that’s any different than it’s ever been, my first 2 1/2 years as a cover driver I spent until April in the building because I was laid off and then after that I was bounced around from route to route like a cheap floozy. But management never misunderstood that I wanted to work every day, and I was never asked to go home because they knew I would not. I was willing to go out and fail every route. They put me on blind L O L. And boy did I fail…. A lot.
Very true the younger people coming up today have their own struggles I am aware I don’t discount what they have to deal with, but I think some dismiss people who have already went through something similar to them.True… all I was saying is that it was a long road to get into a “decent” pkg route…at least back when we started
After seeing the mental abuse and time control they put out it’s no wonder they avoid driving. But every man/woman has to make their bed.I think I’ve said this a few times as I have been involved in a few contract negotiations in the past couple years, so I have a little different perspective, More than money, the members involved in many of these contracts wanted more time off.
For reasons that I won’t say are good or bad, there has been a shift in the majority of the younger peoples value system. Some people call them lazy or unmotivated, and that is
Possibly the case in some instances.
But many of these people have watched their parents and grandparents struggle and strive and get very little out of their 30 and 40 year careers, so they value their time more than they value a job in the pile of money.
So to an 18 to 25 year old working 60 hours a week for any amount of money is very unattractive. It is what it is.
It’s always been said that delivery driving at UPS is not for everyone and that is true. For me I have always enjoyed their mental games because it’s a challenge for others. It’s a burden.After seeing the mental abuse and time control they put out it’s no wonder they avoid driving. But every man/woman has to make their bed.
That all depends. Some people think one day of FT gives them super seniority over all PT. Not always the case. This is according to the Union and the contract.You’re not full-time you don’t have any seniority rights for full-time work
I’m talking about your job classification And your daily guarantee. And you know that.That all depends. Some people think one day of FT gives them super seniority over all PT. Not always the case. This is according to the Union and the contract.
In my building when you have FT and PT in the same job extra work will go by building seniority.I’m talking about your job classification. And you know that.
How would you be in the same job at all? You literally make no sense you’re not a ground driver you shouldn’t even be delivering ground. And you certainly don’t have a right to any of the extra work. LOL.In my building when you have FT and PT in the same job extra work will go by building seniority.
I was talking about delivering NDA and the other PT air drivers. But then I was referring to 22.3 and PT in the preload or the Hub. People low on the seniority list don't always understand how it all works.How would you be in the same job at all? You literally make no sense you’re not a ground driver you shouldn’t even be delivering ground. And you certainly don’t have a right to any of the extra work. LOL.
If your air qualify, I would agree with you that it will go by seniority, I was talking about groundwork.I was talking about delivering NDA and the other PT air drivers. But then I was referring to 22.3 and PT in the preload or the Hub. People low on the seniority list don't always understand how it all works.
Not using air drivers for any groundwork while we have drivers laid off. Been that way for awhile now.If your air qualify, I would agree with you that it will go by seniority, I was talking about groundwork.