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Thebrownblob

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Do you have any idea how many treaties the U.S. has entered into that they no longer honor? Fear mongering, pure and simple. I've been hearing this stuff for 50 years. Very little of it ever comes true. Very little.
That’s because they’ve been trying and moving the bar little by little for many years, look I’m far from a conspiracy theorist I like to be shown some sort of evidence, and all of us have blind spots, you can look at the website and decide for yourself, the point is what good with any of this to us and why would they even propose it?
 

vantexan

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But we honor the one with the UN. That's the point.

They're getting it done through global governance because they can't get it done in Congress.
Will believe it when I see it. We have enough on our plate worrying about the liberals in our own country pushing the transgender agenda, CRT, socialism. This stuff about the one world government etc is nothing but fear mongering. They'll have no more control over us than they do now. Now idiots like the Obama administration entering into things like the Paris Accords, TPP, and the Iran nuclear deal is of our own making and do hurt the average American. Our current administration putting together a liberal wish list like "Build Back Better" would certainly hurt us. I'm more concerned with what they're actually doing than speculating about nefarious forces trying to bring about a one world government that we'll all bend the knee to.
 

wilberforce15

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Will believe it when I see it. We have enough on our plate worrying about the liberals in our own country pushing the transgender agenda, CRT, socialism. This stuff about the one world government etc is nothing but fear mongering. They'll have no more control over us than they do now. Now idiots like the Obama administration entering into things like the Paris Accords, TPP, and the Iran nuclear deal is of our own making and do hurt the average American. Our current administration putting together a liberal wish list like "Build Back Better" would certainly hurt us. I'm more concerned with what they're actually doing than speculating about nefarious forces trying to bring about a one world government that we'll all bend the knee to.
If you haven't seen the domination of global governance and the treaties leveraged to maneuver around Congress, you haven't been paying attention for decades.
 

vantexan

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I don’t know what about an almost global response and lockdown? Lockstep if you will.
It was pointed out that there's been global governance and treaties that have gone around Congress for decades now. Would like to see examples. A pandemic is a unique situation and was more controlled in the U.S. by the CDC than the WHO. And even then the government was at liberty to not follow guidelines if they saw fit. That local governments locked everything down was more about local control than some international body dictating to us.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
The WHO has supreme authority? It's surprising they didn't send in the troops to quell the revolts in Florida, South Dakota, and Sweden! I only call things conspiracy theories when fear mongers run wild with tales of death camps and such. The WHO doesn't run us. Neither does the U.N. Nor do Zionists pull strings behind the scenes to control everything. The closest thing we have to that is a billionaire nut job throwing a lot of money around to support liberal causes. And I'm not talking about Elon Musk.

I stopped reading after you admitted you are so woefully uninformed that it's not worth discussing the matter with you. You couldn't even be bothered to look into what I was talking about before you dismissed it. You are the frog in the pot of slowly heating water, and you are denying you are even in a pot, and calling people who tell you the water is getting hotter conspiracy theorists. Just go back to watching Hannity.
 

vantexan

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I stopped reading after you admitted you are so woefully uninformed that it's not worth discussing the matter with you. You couldn't even be bothered to look into what I was talking about before you dismissed it. You are the frog in the pot of slowly heating water, and you are denying you are even in a pot, and calling people who tell you the water is getting hotter conspiracy theorists. Just go back to watching Hannity.
Yah, because you guys lurking in the shadows know what's really going on. I asked for examples of how for decades we've been run by the U.N. and others. Not a word. We've got enough foolishness to contend with without dreaming up what ifs. But some of you would rather buy into fantasies where we're all enslaved and so on. More power to you but when you broadcast this stuff the less informed get all worried and want to grab guns, etc. We need less divisiveness, not more. But some would rather see fighting.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Yah, because you guys lurking in the shadows know what's really going on. I asked for examples of how for decades we've been run by the U.N. and others. Not a word. We've got enough foolishness to contend with without dreaming up what ifs. But some of you would rather buy into fantasies where we're all enslaved and so on. More power to you but when you broadcast this stuff the less informed get all worried and want to grab guns, etc. We need less divisiveness, not more. But some would rather see fighting.

Appeasement isn't a winning strategy. What do you mean "lurking in the shadows"? That sounds like made up gibberish you tell yourself to allow you to stay in denial. Pointing out what others are trying to do and their motives for doing it is simply to make people aware so we can shine the light on it and prevent those people from being successful. You having too much to worry about has nothing to do with what is actually going on. If you don't want to worry about things that are out of your wheelhouse, fine, I know I can't care about every terrible thing going on either. But I don't deny the things I don't have time for just to make myself feel better.
 

vantexan

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Appeasement isn't a winning strategy. What do you mean "lurking in the shadows"? That sounds like made up gibberish you tell yourself to allow you to stay in denial. Pointing out what others are trying to do and their motives for doing it is simply to make people aware so we can shine the light on it and prevent those people from being successful. You having too much to worry about has nothing to do with what is actually going on. If you don't want to worry about things that are out of your wheelhouse, fine, I know I can't care about every terrible thing going on either. But I don't deny the things I don't have time for just to make myself feel better.
Please tell us more about what's going on behind the scenes that's going to affect us all.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
If it's true then you have nothing to worry about. Take the slaughter house in eastern Oregon they're building to kill all the unvaccinated. Oops, pandemic is over. Next!

See, you don't even understand what I wrote. You construct a fantasy version of what people say so you can dismiss it. No wonder your wife can't stand you, that and the battering.
 

vantexan

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See, you don't even understand what I wrote. You construct a fantasy version of what people say so you can dismiss it. No wonder your wife can't stand you, that and the battering.
Really getting under your skin now. I was just perusing your posts about extermination camps in eastern Oregon and in Washington state. Should I pull some of them up for all to see? And if we just look at recent posts you have a tendency to get nasty personally when someone disagrees with you. Start with little digs and escalate. Sorry, I refuse to feed into your paranoia by agreeing there's shadowy figures working behind the scenes to enslave us all and kill those not willing to comply. And they've apparently been running everything behind the scenes for decades now, but for some unexplained reason that's not good enough. It's time to slaughter everyone and save the planet!
 

Thebrownblob

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Really getting under your skin now. I was just perusing your posts about extermination camps in eastern Oregon and in Washington state. Should I pull some of them up for all to see? And if we just look at recent posts you have a tendency to get nasty personally when someone disagrees with you. Start with little digs and escalate. Sorry, I refuse to feed into your paranoia by agreeing there's shadowy figures working behind the scenes to enslave us all and kill those not willing to comply. And they've apparently been running everything behind the scenes for decades now, but for some unexplained reason that's not good enough. It's time to slaughter everyone and save the planet!
You keep saying shadowy figures I don’t know who those people are. The ones I’m talking about are right out of the open and are telling you what they would like to do. One word government, centrally controlled digital currency, to track, control, and trace you. The Chinese model. They are not enslaving us, we are enslaving ourselves, to them with debt, with apathy, and with hedonism. Will they ultimately succeed? I don’t know but they’re closer now than they’ve ever been, mostly because people now have no problem laying down their rights. As the quote “give me liberty or give me death” displayed there are far worse things than death.
 
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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Really getting under your skin now. I was just perusing your posts about extermination camps in eastern Oregon and in Washington state. Should I pull some of them up for all to see? And if we just look at recent posts you have a tendency to get nasty personally when someone disagrees with you. Start with little digs and escalate. Sorry, I refuse to feed into your paranoia by agreeing there's shadowy figures working behind the scenes to enslave us all and kill those not willing to comply. And they've apparently been running everything behind the scenes for decades now, but for some unexplained reason that's not good enough. It's time to slaughter everyone and save the planet!

Under my skin? Lol. I'm not the one doing searches on old posts. I know what I wrote, and I know how you misunderstood what I wrote. You clearly still misunderstand them if you think I'm concerned about you bringing them up. I give what I get. I always only play by the rules others set. If I get "nasty personally" it's because the other person opened that door and I stepped in. You misrepresenting what other people say so you can dismiss them as crazy, then pretend you aren't certainly makes it ok for me to remind you of the things you specifically disclosed to us. As far as I know none of that actually happened. I highly doubt any real person could be as obtuse as you appear to be while also playing the little verbal games you play. I am forced to conclude you are one of the many, many sock puppets on this site.
 

rickyb

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"The lumbering General Motors (GM) had years to confront the electric car challenge of Tesla. Tiny Tesla took on giant GM, which built electric cars as prototypes long before Elon Musk was born. GM launched the much-troubled Chevrolet Volt and other converted model brands, but Musk isn’t losing any sleep over competition from GM or the other giant auto manufacturers. He just reported last quarter sales of over 300,000 electric vehicles, which means expected sales of well over one million dollars in 2022 or 50% over the previous year. Tesla’s profits are skyrocketing as well, as more Tesla manufacturing plants open. The GM bureaucracy, under CEO-engineer Mary Barra, just can’t put it together no matter its bold promises to convert to all electric vehicles."

 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
"He just reported last quarter sales of over 300,000 electric vehicles, which means expected sales of well over one million dollars in 2022 or 50% over the previous year.

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I think they meant one million units. Smh.
 

vantexan

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Under my skin? Lol. I'm not the one doing searches on old posts. I know what I wrote, and I know how you misunderstood what I wrote. You clearly still misunderstand them if you think I'm concerned about you bringing them up. I give what I get. I always only play by the rules others set. If I get "nasty personally" it's because the other person opened that door and I stepped in. You misrepresenting what other people say so you can dismiss them as crazy, then pretend you aren't certainly makes it ok for me to remind you of the things you specifically disclosed to us. As far as I know none of that actually happened. I highly doubt any real person could be as obtuse as you appear to be while also playing the little verbal games you play. I am forced to conclude you are one of the many, many sock puppets on this site.
Show me where I misrepresented you? Come on, it's not enough to just say it.
 
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