Part-timers deserve better.

[Karma...]

higher wages addresses many problems......turnover...safety...production...absenteeism...service......better to pay high wages and hold people accountable.....I mean everyone..management first..non-management......money in the pocket cures many ills.....

 

[542thruNthru]

to make it simple all wages should be a base of 1.5 times that states/city minimum wage with added for skilled jobs......only what is not that should be negotiated......dont forget that the federal minimum wage is 7.25 an hour and has been since 2009.....

Still only takes care of the bottom PT workers. You'll still have PT employees upset new people make the same as them.

 

[olroadbeech]

Yes, you are correct. Part timers need better treatment and better pay package.

The reality is that PTer's are expendable. Hubs will be almost totally mechanized soon. Only supes and a skeleton crew will be needed. Feeder drivers will not exist in 20-25 years as we know it now. Feeder will only need shuttle drivers to bring loads from the highway to hub from driver less trucks and put on the door.

The same with package drivers further down the timeframe. UPS will figure a way to do without as many now. drones, Uber and the like ,subcontractors, neighborhood drop off points, etc.

Managers will be almost extinct. Skeleton crew as well. The highest paying jobs will be in IT , robotics , and mechanization specialists.

The union will be gone sooner than you think. Wages will be based totally on supply and demand.

Get yours now while you still can.

 

[J.R.]

The reason you guys have ty loads is because high turnover + no training.
Granted I work sort but I was given no training at all. I watched a couple videos on hazmat and then was thrown into the fire. None of my coworkers even spoke to me for my first two weeks and any time I looked like I needed help they turned a blind eye. UPS has this backwards macho attitude of hazing new workers because it's "sink or swim." All you do is show new employees that the company has a ty culture and that they should head for the hills ASAP.
I'm not sure paying a slightly higher wage would fix this.

Yeah I sort too. They don't train sorters like they used to and need to. Then they get mad when a lot of missorts are discovered. Well, what do you expect when people aren't trained properly? Now, a lot of good employees are quitting.

 

[Karma...]

Still only takes care of the bottom PT workers. You'll still have PT employees upset new people make the same as them.

. you make a valid point and I stand corrected.....well...how about the 1.5 x for base ...add in .25 cents/hr for every year of seniority ?

 

[Days]

. you make a valid point and I stand corrected.....well...how about the 1.5 x for base ...add in .25 cents/hr for every year of seniority ?

Id at least like that. It would be about a 1.25 raise for me which is around what I was asking for

 

[Days]

@olroadbeech

Idk about that. Robots taking over the work force won't happen. There's too many Americans that need jobs. I think it'll spike up but eventually labor laws will be put into place imho to protect jobs from machines.

 

[Time for change]

No every part timer does not, not every part timer has been here for a month or two. Part timers with many years of seniority and started at 8.50 20 years after 8.50 was the starting wage deserve the bump in pay.

 

[Time for change]

For instance a part timer with 3-4 years will basically make same as new hire. They need the same bump and so does the 15 year person. Vote no!!!!

 

[Blackstream]

None of my coworkers even spoke to me for my first two weeks and any time I looked like I needed help they turned a blind eye.

You know it takes quite a bit of effort to go out of your way to train someone and help them out when they need help. Imagine having a constant influx of new people coming in. You spend time mentoring someone and becoming friends only to have them leave the sort aisle anyways soon after. Not only that, but most of the people there are most likely still figuring it out themselves and don't really know how much they can help, because they're not even completely sure if they're doing it right. It took me a year or two of sorting before I really felt like I had everything down solid. Even longer before I felt like I was good enough I had something to offer. That's longer than most people granted, but everyone learns at their own rate.

Then to top it off, morale drops because the good sorters keep leaving, and all you've got left are new people and people that don't give a , and eventually you get to the point where you just want to work the job and get out of there. And half the new people that come into the aisle are gone in a few days back to their area because no matter how much training or help they get, they just decide that environment isn't for them.

I dunno how ty your aisle is or how hard you tried to make friends and ask questions, all I'm saying is, try to see it from their point of view. Most people are receptive if you're friendly towards them and will warm up real fast and will answer whatever questions you have as well as they can. It makes sense too because if someone is asking you questions and warming up to you, they actually want to learn and are probably planning on sticking around.

As far as the blind eye thing goes, I can't tell you how many times I've caught someone looking at me and I think they're asking a question and then there's that awkward moment when I ask and they're like 'oh no I was just looking down the belt' or whatever. Eventually you figure they'll make a motion to get your attention or say something if they actually have a question and you avoid eye contact otherwise.

 

[Indecisi0n]

In the years since the last contract was approved, the Teamsters and other unions have spent a significant amount of time, energy and member dues lobbying for $15 an hour.
Yet, when it comes time to lobby for $15 an hour for new hires, specifically part time employees, their solution is we'll get there - eventually.
It could be argued that the PC drivers are the face of UPS. Feeder drivers are the lifeblood. And, those who work inside, who are mostly part-timers, are the backbone that provides support this system.
As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. And, no doubt, any driver knows that, based upon load quality, the part time loaders leave a lot to be desired.
So, don't the drivers deserve better quality loaders?
Well,you're not going to that anytime soon offering new hires $13 an hour.

Oh no, we are the backbone

 

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@Blackstream

There's that and also the possibility of getting more work. Whether it be because the new hires will just depend on you more, or the sups will just expect you to train everyone that is new with no compensation. Sups will also look fit anywhere to add more work and increase productivity, it's best to just stay busy and focus on your own work.

 

[Days]

@Blackstream

There's that and also the possibility of getting more work. Whether it be because the new hires will just depend on you more, or the sups will just expect you to train everyone that is new with no compensation. Sups will also look fit anywhere to add more work and increase productivity, it's best to just stay busy and focus on your own work.

 

[eats packages]

Really sorry to hear that man, my hub is the opposite. If anyone is struggling they are assisted (sometimes not very quickly but they do get their help)

Our training is ass tho. They'll put sorters in trailers and even air cans and ask them to straight load.....sorters don't know how to load obviously......disaster follows LMAO

This applies here too but the sups are so bad and we all get so much work in a day that help and assistance is often too little, too late.
I would love to have the opportunity to shove my supervisors outta the way and give the kids a course on egress, clearing the PC asile, keeping bulk and stops together. But they will have DESTROYED their load by the time I get to "help" and there aint even enough space to have two people standing in the car.

 

[born2Bwild]

I expect the company to roll out the red carpet for part timers to try to persuade them to vote yes

 

[born2Bwild]

I expect the company to roll out the red carpet for part timers to try to pursued them to vote yes

 

[Time for change]

I expect the company to roll out the red carpet for part timers to try to persuade them to vote yes

Won’t be part timers with 4 years or more seniority.

 

[Time for change]

I expect the company to roll out the red carpet for part timers to try to persuade them to vote yes

Won’t be part timers with 4 years or more seniority.

 

[Zowert]

They pay these PT package handlers in peanuts then wonder why half of them never show up for work. I bet they could make more money if they stood in front of Home Depot or cut grass for people on Craigslist.

They may as well offer “unpaid internships” for people to come sort packages (illegal, I know) until a driving job opens up. Come work your tail off for six years for practically nothing then you might get the opportunity to drive a package car!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

They pay these PT package handlers in peanuts then wonder why half of them never show up for work.

You could pay them $20.00 an hour.... and they would still have problems.

The part-timers that do show up, are the 45 year old with a wife an 2 kids.