Possible driver death due to heat

[TooTechie]

I have two places to get it, I have just heard many centers have one. Its not about the cost.

We have a couple big ice machines in our break room.

 

[Ecw21411]

We have a couple big ice machines in our break room.

Our center refuses to get us ice

 

[newfie]

So you still blame UPS for the drivers death, spin it however you like or post some facts.

So what I have read after the last post is that I should adjust a drivers day based on their personal issues.

I "could" do lots of things but if you are a money hungry driver you gonna stay out no matter what, might as well give you something to do while your out there.

Your right we are not running a social experiment, its a business and we are here to make money and that's how you get paid.

I could go on but I have been home since 530 pm and I have am gonna leave you on the internet still mad about work!

you sound so angry , does it really matter here?

 

[newfie]

I considered offering a tit-for-tat response but then, I realized, you can't even conjugate the words: "You" and "Are" properly. (You're, not your...).

shame I was kind a hoping for some tat..

 

[newfie]

Other businesses in hot states, start their crews early and have them off the clock by 2pm. Not possible at UPS, so side vents, on the cars, too much expense?

I wonder if its something they have looked at . Only problem I can see is it raining in the vents and getting everything wet.

 

[dumbmuthertrucker]

So you still blame UPS for the drivers death, spin it however you like or post some facts.

So what I have read after the last post is that I should adjust a drivers day based on their personal issues.

I "could" do lots of things but if you are a money hungry driver you gonna stay out no matter what, might as well give you something to do while your out there.

Your right we are not running a social experiment, its a business and we are here to make money and that's how you get paid.

I could go on but I have been home since 530 pm and I have am gonna leave you on the internet still mad about work!

Sounds like you've been hydrating with the company Kool-aid!
Very, very few of us are the "money hungry" drivers you refer to. When it's 100+ degrees out there, no one is going to milk the clock!
I'm not one of the fools who thinks that UPS will "cave" and give us A/C or extra vents in our trucks. That's just not gonna happen.
The problem with UPS is over-dispatching!
In the middle of summer, when the weather men are forecasting triple-digit heat indexes, specialists are coming on the news channels proclaiming how dangerous it is to spend extended periods of time in the extreme temps, heat advisories are in effect, etc, management decides it's a good time to cut routes!
Here in the south, when the temps exceed 95 degrees, we suddenly get an extra 20 or 30 stops/day. If UPS truly cared about driver safety, they would leave the routes in place and get every driver off the clock as early as possible. They wouldn't have to do this countrywide, just wherever the extreme temps are.
The problem is, UPS doesn't give a about their employees, they just go through the motions to make Liberty Mutual think they do. UPS only cares about the bottom line, the billions they will make, the bonus checks you managers will cash. You're all a bunch of greedy s, and I hope someday the memories of how badly you've treated your hard-working employees keeps you awake at night.

 

[toonertoo]

There is a vent in the front of the truck. One part goes to the cab through a hole in a chute, the other goes to the cargo area.there is a arm that you can move up and down to open/close it but I have no idea which way to put it to open or close it.

Forward is open, I had to duct tape it, and after a week or two it comes unstuck.

 

[9.5er]

I wonder if its something they have looked at . Only problem I can see is it raining in the vents and getting everything wet.

Most of our trucks have leaky roof tops so the packages get wet anyway.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

So what I have read after the last post is that I should adjust a drivers day based on their personal issues.

!

Yes actually the contract says you have to take that sort of thing into consideration. Sorry, oh wait I'm not more like bite my bird. You are exactly the type of person that will run UPS into the ground. Not just you, but the other thousands of UPS clones just like you, trained to think how UPS wants you to. Have fun being a drone for a company that will discard you like expired milk when the time comes

 

[toonertoo]

I wonder if its something they have looked at . Only problem I can see is it raining in the vents and getting everything wet.

My truck leaks in the back, everything is wet anyway. Most things are double boxed, or wrapped in plastic.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

I hope someday the memories of how badly you've treated your hard-working employees keeps you awake at night.

It won't because he has been brainwashed by UPS to think that way. It's pretty sad

 

[toonertoo]

Its not rocket science, ventilation has been around a long time. Heres what I do (and will probaly get fired for) . I have a pu at 4. It is on a dead end street. I open the bulkhead and the rear door and drive it the 1/4 mile, and blow out the heat. Drops the temp in the back by 20 degrees. Its survival.

 

[dumbmuthertrucker]

Forward is open, I had to duct tape it, and after a week or two it comes unstuck.

"Up" is closed, and "down" is open on the Freightliners, and Workhorses that I've driven the past 10 years. Make sure to open the vent on the cab end and also on the cargo end.

 

[wayfair]

"Up" is closed, and "down" is open on the Freightliners, and Workhorses that I've driven the past 10 years. Make sure to open the vent on the cab end and also on the cargo end.

that air won't move becaue there's no exhaust ... so it's trapped Hot air

 

[Dr.Brownz]

Its not rocket science, ventilation has been around a long time. Heres what I do (and will probaly get fired for) . I have a pu at 4. It is on a dead end street. I open the bulkhead and the rear door and drive it the 1/4 mile, and blow out the heat. Drops the temp in the back by 20 degrees. Its survival.

I wish I could do that! The best I can do is park in shade, open up the bulk head and back door take my 10 minute break and then start sorting (we don't have PAS/EDD so it really sucks having to be back there for 10 - 20 minutes sorting your resi's, which are usually in 2 or 3 groups, top shelf, bottom shelf, floor).

edit: the back door doesn't have a sensor does it?

 

[dumbmuthertrucker]

Actually, if you look, there is exhaust. It doesn't do much, but it's there.

 

[Theking30]

Possibly so. My only point is someone with that much experience driving, that's a lot of summers. I'm confident a driver with that many years has experienced overheating before.

Why she allowed herself to get to that point is the question. No manager or steward is worried more about their numbers than a driver dying.

I'm sure some around here like Indecisi0n will disagree with the bolded statement above too....lol.

You truly believe a supervisor cares about you, if I were to die on route, I am pretty sure I would get a warning letter the next day.
This weeks PCM's on staying hydrated followed by you are 1 hour over pick it up.

They are told to say it and rarely mean it.

In the end just take care of yourself and hydrate and if needed stop and take a minute or 10.

 

[toonertoo]

"Up" is closed, and "down" is open on the Freightliners, and Workhorses that I've driven the past 10 years. Make sure to open the vent on the cab end and also on the cargo end.

Wow, My mechanic marked it the opposite, in marker, and duct taped it. No wonder its so hot in there. Its a freightliner, 1000

 

[toonertoo]

I wish I could do that! The best I can do is park in shade, open up the bulk head and back door take my 10 minute break and then start sorting (we don't have PAS/EDD so it really sucks having to be back there for 10 - 20 minutes sorting your resi's, which are usually in 2 or 3 groups, top shelf, bottom shelf, floor).

edit: the back door doesn't have a sensor does it?

It did have remote on it, but it quit working. And there is no other sensor that I know of. Yes I show up on a report, but I show up alive, as well.
I think this year it is bothering many more than normal, is one day there was a chance of frost, the next day 90. No time for acclimation. Combined with the record rainfall, the humidity is always so high.

 

[bottomups]

So you still blame UPS for the drivers death, spin it however you like or post some facts.

So what I have read after the last post is that I should adjust a drivers day based on their personal issues.

I "could" do lots of things but if you are a money hungry driver you gonna stay out no matter what, might as well give you something to do while your out there.

Your right we are not running a social experiment, its a business and we are here to make money and that's how you get paid.

I could go on but I have been home since 530 pm and I have am gonna leave you on the internet still mad about work!

It's in the contract. Article 37 Section 1. "...due consideration to the age and physical condition of the employee."
I'm no spring chicken anymore and have some physical limitations due to previous injuries. As a 30+ year employee, you cannot expect me to do the work of these young guns just starting out.
Just saying!