President Trump

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
You avoided the whole, "got us into a war with a lie arguement."

Biden supported the president at the time not knowing the entire pretext was a lie!

So the question again becomes are you mad at a Democrat being lied to or that the Democrat believed the lie?

Joe Biden’s Iraq problem

Story simplified!

Biden was an Iraq warmonger who helped get thousands of American soldiers killed. Bernie did not. You cannot objectively say that Biden is any different from any other Iraq warmonger. You'd call any Congressional Republican who voted for the war an evil warmonger too. It wouldn't matter whether they voted based upon faulty intelligence or not.

Politically-based double standards that are clearly flawed are hilarious. Trump has gotten us into zero wars since he took office.
 

Benben

Working on a new degree, Masters in BS Detecting!
I don't think I've ever called anyone a warmonger due to the 2002 invasion!

That war was a transactional deal to make Halliburton many billions of dollars with apparent kick backs for Cheney!

To begin this deal everyone, irrespective of political affilation, was lied to about WMDs
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
I don't think I've ever called anyone a warmonger due to the 2002 invasion!

That war was a transactional deal to make Halliburton many billions of dollars with apparent kick backs for Cheney!

To begin this deal everyone, irrespective of political affilation, was lied to about WMDs
It was a very tough spot for politicians to be in. While alarm bells were being raised by many CIA/Defense analysts regarding the cherry picking of evidence, most thought Iraq either had something (the chemical weapons Reagan sold them for one thing) or our military under Rumsfeld/Cheney was capable of planting them( turns out they were even too incompetent to do that). So, in the interest of covering one's butt, many people were reluctant to go against the mainstream. Kudos to people like Sanders and Nader for being brave.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
I don't think I've ever called anyone a warmonger due to the 2002 invasion!

That war was a transactional deal to make Halliburton many billions of dollars with apparent kick backs for Cheney!

To begin this deal everyone, irrespective of political affilation, was lied to about WMDs
There you go with your conspiracy theories again!
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
I'd you asked me to switch spots with him and I would have to speak like him, be orange like him and have my body be shaped like him but I would get all his riches , I would kindly decline.

tell someone that believes you. maybe your woody doll?

in either case he was smart enough to become president and nobody outside of his supporters believed he could do it.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
It was a very tough spot for politicians to be in. While alarm bells were being raised by many CIA/Defense analysts regarding the cherry picking of evidence, most thought Iraq either had something (the chemical weapons Reagan sold them for one thing) or our military under Rumsfeld/Cheney was capable of planting them( turns out they were even too incompetent to do that). So, in the interest of covering one's butt, many people were reluctant to go against the mainstream. Kudos to people like Sanders and Nader for being brave.

tap dancing
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Before you pat the pumpkin king on the back, do we just ignore the other 98K deaths?

I didnt realize you were praising our great leader when I quoted you? I thought you were saying this disease may be going away in the sunlight. I then remarked that you may be right because deaths really dropped off a lot.

will I have to explain every conversation you have here to you?
 

Indecisi0n

Well-Known Member
I didnt realize you were praising our great leader when I quoted you? I thought you were saying this disease may be going away in the sunlight. I then remarked that you may be right because deaths really dropped off a lot.

will I have to explain every conversation you have here to you?
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