President Trump

[vantexan]

The IL state senate, the US senate and the White House.

Where he spent most of his time in the state senate running for U.S. Senate, and most of his time there running for President. Name all the bills he authored in either? Before Trump became persona non grata with the Dems he was lauded by them for his deal making ability and support of minorities. He actually built something.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Have you not seen "Zero Dark Thirty?" The groundwork for finding bin Laden started in the Bush administration. Obama administration saddled everyone with very restrictive rules of engagement and had to be practically dragged into making a move on the suspected bin Laden compound after a very long time. The director and producers were questioned about their sources because the movie was so accurate. The director was the first woman director, can't remember her name, Katherine something, to win an Oscar for "The Hurt Locker" and her "Zero Dark Thirty" was completely shut out of the Oscars because she dared to tell the truth about what really happened behind the scenes. Thou shalt not make Obama look bad in Hollywood. Jessica Chastain should have won best actress for her role in the movie. So Obama getting bin Laden is akin to him winning the Nobel Prize and then watching the Middle East fall apart under his watch.

Lol.
You get all your information from garbage movies?

 

[vantexan]

Lol.
You get all your information from garbage movies?

When the Federal government questions the people involved I don't think it's garbage. Of course you think it is because it criticized Obama.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

When the Federal government questions the people involved I don't think it's garbage. Of course you think it is because it criticized Obama.

Not true at all.
You're gullible.

 

[vantexan]

Not true at all.
You're gullible.

100% true Deep Stater.

 

[bbsam]

Lol.
You get all your information from garbage movies?

I liked the movie

I didn’t thinking it was particularly damning of Obama though. May have taken longer than some appreciate, but they got him.

I think @vantexan just sees what he wants.

 

[vantexan]

I liked the movie

I didn’t thinking it was particularly damning of Obama though. May have taken longer than some appreciate, but they got him.

I think @vantexan just sees what he wants.

It showed an administration that handcuffed interrogators from being able to get vital intelligence. It showed an administration that sat on it's hands, afraid to take a risk, until they desperately needed a political win.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

It showed an administration that handcuffed interrogators from being able to get vital intelligence. It showed an administration that sat on it's hands, afraid to take a risk, until they desperately needed a political win.

Torture doesn't work.
That's a fact.

It's also inhuman and below us.
That's an opinion.

Your facts are actually fiction.
Your opinion is disgusting.

 

[vantexan]

Torture doesn't work.
That's a fact.

It's also inhuman and below us.
That's an opinion.

Your facts are actually fiction.
Your opinion is disgusting.

Waterboarding only happened a few times and it ultimately lead to bin Laden's hideout. If that helped save lives then it was worth every excruciating moment. THEY put themselves in a position to be waterboarded. THEY were blowing up innocent people in markets, carrying on suicide attacks in Europe, Africa. THEY were cutting off the heads of journalists and contractors. Your moral relativism is what's disgusting.

 

[It will be fine]

Waterboarding only happened a few times and it ultimately lead to bin Laden's hideout. If that helped save lives then it was worth every excruciating moment. THEY put themselves in a position to be waterboarded. THEY were blowing up innocent people in markets, carrying on suicide attacks in Europe, Africa. THEY were cutting off the heads of journalists and contractors. Your moral relativism is what's disgusting.

None of that is true. There was one guy that was water boarded 180 times. They left the wet rag on his face for days straight so he wouldn’t know when it was coming. Torture doesn’t work.

 

[bbsam]

It showed an administration that handcuffed interrogators from being able to get vital intelligence. It showed an administration that sat on it's hands, afraid to take a risk, until they desperately needed a political win.

They got vital information.

It made sure the information was correct.

They got the guy.

 

[vantexan]

None of that is true. There was one guy that was water boarded 180 times. They left the wet rag on his face for days straight so he wouldn’t know when it was coming. Torture doesn’t work.

Name the guy? Khalid Sheik Mohammed? I misspoke. It was used a lot on several prisoners, but wasn't used on a lot of people. Yeah, he was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks. It got us intelligence and worth every second of it considering what he did and what he knew.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Waterboarding only happened a few times and it ultimately lead to bin Laden's hideout. If that helped save lives then it was worth every excruciating moment. THEY put themselves in a position to be waterboarded. THEY were blowing up innocent people in markets, carrying on suicide attacks in Europe, Africa. THEY were cutting off the heads of journalists and contractors. Your moral relativism is what's disgusting.

Wrong as usual.

 

[bottomups]

When the Federal government questions the people involved I don't think it's garbage. Of course you think it is because it criticized Obama.

So when the Federal government questions people involved in possible obstruction of justice you don't think it's garbage?
Welcome to the club.

 

[Future]

Just spit balling here ... do most of you know what our captured soldiers etc ...endured as far as torture?

 

[trickpony1]

Torture doesn’t work.

You can make this statement because you've been in a real combat zone and just couldn't extract real time intel?

I'm guessing your holding hands with the suspect and singing kumbaya didn't work either?

 

[bbsam]

Just spit balling here ... do most of you know what our captured soldiers etc ...endured as far as torture?

And that’s part of why we shouldn’t. That’s something John McCain comments on often.

 

[bbsam]

You can make this statement because you've been in a real combat zone and just couldn't extract real time intel?

I'm guessing your holding hands with the suspect and singing kumbaya didn't work either?

Are you ignoring what intel officials say repeatedly?

 

[MAKAVELI]

Just spit balling here ... do most of you know what our captured soldiers etc ...endured as far as torture?

Remember, your president doesn't like people that were captured.

 

[Future]

Remember, your president doesn't like people that were captured.

I admit our current President does say a lot of things ... that can be taken the wrong way.... but deep insight can rectify what he is actually saying