Progress made in the Third & Fourth Rounds of UPS Contract Negotiations

[Bubblehead]

Because without people working and getting their 40 hours the union is losing those pension credits. Am I miss understanding something here?

Pension credits are predicated on 1,801 straight time hours annually, not a 40 hour work week in the Central Region.
Maybe it's different where you are?

I would think that it would be economically advantageous to make all drivers work every day, in order to keep the lower seniority employees laid off, in order to limit the number employees they would have to make contributions for both pension and H&W?

 

[MyTripisCut]

We don't have "sick days" here?

You do realize that this isn't a contractual issue, right?

If it isn’t a contractual issue, then why did my benefits become degraded after the last contract was imposed?

 

[Indecisi0n]

Pension credits are predicated on 1,801 straight time hours annually, not a 40 hour work week in the Central Region.
Maybe it's different where you are?

I would think that it would be economically advantageous to make all drivers work every day, in order to keep the lower seniority employees laid off, in order to limit the number employees they would have to make contributions for both pension and H&W?

It's different here. If you work less than 40 hours in a work week you do not get a pension credit.

 

[Bubblehead]

Either way. One punch a week is absurd. If you get hurt or sick, then you lose benefits? What’s the point then if they aren’t there when you need them? It needs to be fixed if they want my vote.

That's not true.
In those two instances you would still be covered under FMLA and short term disability.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Pension credits are predicated on 1,801 straight time hours annually, not a 40 hour work week in the Central Region.
Maybe it's different where you are?

I would think that it would be economically advantageous to make all drivers work every day, in order to keep the lower seniority employees laid off, in order to limit the number employees they would have to make contributions for both pension and H&W?

Make they pay on all hours worked. That would fix a ton of problems, including cutting back too much on staffing.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If it isn’t a contractual issue, then why did my benefits become degraded after the last contract was imposed?

It was a big step down for me also.

 

[MyTripisCut]

That's not true.
In those two instances you would still be covered under FMLA and short term disability.

Sounds like Obama care.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Sounds like Obama care.

Do we get a free phone too?

 

[Indecisi0n]

Do we get a free phone too?

Only a prepaid with 20 minutes.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Only a prepaid with 20 minutes.

Just give me unlimited data. I don't need to talk to anyone.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Why would the Company need something like this to "deter people from going home"?
Don't they already have complete control over that in their scheduling?

He was talking about the union trying to discourage dead days.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

If it isn’t a contractual issue, then why did my benefits become degraded after the last contract was imposed?

The Company is contractually obligated to pay the contributions but cannot dictate the level of coverage that the Union must provide.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

That's not true.
In those two instances you would still be covered under FMLA and short term disability.

This will end up being alot of time off for people. We will be forced to use it in time. We will end up being taxed on it. The more it accumulates.

 

[wide load]

Hoffa and my local is a joke. Terrible deals

Interesting philosophy.

 

[Bubblehead]

Sounds like Obama care.

X

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Hoffa and my local is a joke. Terrible deals

It's readily apparent....

That you are still upset, with your personal life choices.


Trying to blame anyone but yourself, is a cop out.

 

[Delivered]

Letting the union control our health care was a big mistake. Hope they run it better than the pension plans.....

Teamcare is run by the same folks who run the Central States Pension Fund, and you've seen how well that's going

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Teamcare is run by the same folks who run the Central States Pension Fund, and you've seen how well that's going

Uh.....no.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Teamcare is run by the same folks who run the Central States Pension Fund, and you've seen how well that's going

Trust me I'm not happy with it. The union is in business for themselves , not for us.

 

[Gimme Danger]

Teamcare is run by the same folks who run the Central States Pension Fund, and you've seen how well that's going

While that is technically true, there is a big difference between a health fund and a pension fund, as far as administration goes.
I'll take a union-run Taft Hartley health plan over a company plan any day of the week. Our local has a great plan that is very well run all UPSers in the local are in (along with a bunch of other members from other workplaces).