And we had a one day strike over it
PT Preload contract? Pay raises?
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Big Package
Handler
Hit the nail right on the head. One guy said he never joined the union because he was just using this for school. Lucky he never needed them to help secure reimbursement..!! other PT guys were talking about the union and how they felt it useless since they'd just go work something easier for minimum wage. I told them how it saved my job, fix my manipulated attendance, and one other thing and they were beside themselves.
There really needs to be better sign-ons. Like hit seniority get a grand or something. Don't just hand it out to any new hire, let them work for it. Yeah sure you might see people still quit but more will think about staying for the long run. You gotta think, it's a pretty secure job once you're in, and money is money. But the 18-24 group just doesn't care enough to stay employed here. I did a month in evening sort and saw eight guys get hired and quit. I didn't even work every day either.
Miss me with that "have to lower delivery costs" stuff while our profits are in the billions.
Double time here
brown_trousers
Well-Known Member
instead of a higher starting wage, Id rather see significant raises for existing part timers. with the hope that it will encourage preloaders to stick around longer. There's nothing worse than getting a new hire preloader every week loading my car!!!
Big Package
Handler
Trust me there are some of us who care and are seeing it through. I know it's frustrating. If there were raises at 30 days, 90 days, seniority, then year, it'd help. I'm not talking anything big let's say they hire at 10, 10.25 for 30, 10.60 for 60 and 11 for seniority and then it's up to union. Then workers can judge if they're gonna stay for raises outlined in the contract. That's only a buck an hour raise but it is important enough just getting one to begin with, because you'll never hear you're doing a good job from anyone except coworkers in your first 90.
Some of us try and remember drivers too.. not a lot of us get the same routes everyday.. so we will know driver A likes a clear aisle and all 70/irregs in back, driver B wants bags and envelopes toted, whichever. Or if we know the cover driver on a callout, we can still salvage some preferences depending on when they called out. We get this out of the way at PCM, usually. The same people who don't care participate and just load, usually misloading or setting themselves up for a
fit and fixing it last minute alongside an angry driver.
A couple of the people they pull off preload are some of our best guys. We've had to pull them and they went from 40 misloads to 3. I don't know if people get too comfortable and lazy or what. I don't want my driver bitching and moaning my name to supes. I don't wanna make their day harder. It doesn't take much effort to do things right. We are all in it together. Some day someone will be loading my car. I may as well make a positive impact.
Some of us try and remember drivers too.. not a lot of us get the same routes everyday.. so we will know driver A likes a clear aisle and all 70/irregs in back, driver B wants bags and envelopes toted, whichever. Or if we know the cover driver on a callout, we can still salvage some preferences depending on when they called out. We get this out of the way at PCM, usually. The same people who don't care participate and just load, usually misloading or setting themselves up for a
fit and fixing it last minute alongside an angry driver.A couple of the people they pull off preload are some of our best guys. We've had to pull them and they went from 40 misloads to 3. I don't know if people get too comfortable and lazy or what. I don't want my driver bitching and moaning my name to supes. I don't wanna make their day harder. It doesn't take much effort to do things right. We are all in it together. Some day someone will be loading my car. I may as well make a positive impact.
ThatOnePreloader
Unprofessional Professional
I can attest to this. Every since mid June I've had 11 (!!!!!!!!) different loaders working the truck bay across from me. Drivers are pissed and all the newbies are awful. Constant new hires affects an entire belt either via misloads or clogging the belt from sluggish loading. Annoying.
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
3 year contracts back in the 1930's huh.... damn you are old....how old are your great great grandkids???
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
The union needs to be proactive and think about the future and what ups might be doing....
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
That response was about 15 seconds late bud... you're slipping...lol
THAT was in the late 80's and early 90s
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
What do you guys think about this whole pension situation.... if they try to friend us on paying future contributions is this a strike able issue???
THAT was in the late 80's and early 90s
Coldworld
Well-Known Member
They have had close to the same starting wage for over 25 years... so us asking for a starting wage at 13 or 14 shouldn't be reaching for the stars....Trust me there are some of us who care and are seeing it through. I know it's frustrating. If there were raises at 30 days, 90 days, seniority, then year, it'd help. I'm not talking anything big let's say they hire at 10, 10.25 for 30, 10.60 for 60 and 11 for seniority and then it's up to union. Then workers can judge if they're gonna stay for raises outlined in the contract. That's only a buck an hour raise but it is important enough just getting one to begin with, because you'll never hear you're doing a good job from anyone except coworkers in your first 90.
Some of us try and remember drivers too.. not a lot of us get the same routes everyday.. so we will know driver A likes a clear aisle and all 70/irregs in back, driver B wants bags and envelopes toted, whichever. Or if we know the cover driver on a callout, we can still salvage some preferences depending on when they called out. We get this out of the way at PCM, usually. The same people who don't care participate and just load, usually misloading or setting themselves up for a
A couple of the people they pull off preload are some of our best guys. We've had to pull them and they went from 40 misloads to 3. I don't know if people get too comfortable and lazy or what. I don't want my driver bitching and moaning my name to supes. I don't wanna make their day harder. It doesn't take much effort to do things right. We are all in it together. Some day someone will be loading my car. I may as well make a positive impact.
For me it is. I don't wanna walk but I'm willing
Where'd you hear they're gonna friend us on paying future pensions??
To be able to raise the starting wage they would have to give us current employees less of a raise, the total compensation package is a set dollar figure, it is divided up and sliced and diced like pie. I'm not giving up my piece for someone who doesn't even work here yet.
brown_trousers
Well-Known Member
I dont think UPS will "friend" us on those pensions, they will abide by the agreements they made with the teamsters.
Whether or not the teamsters should have agreed to these pension changes, is a different issue altogether.
