Ready to Strike?

[BigUnionGuy]

Where did you get this information?

I am interested in learning a little more about the origins and history of the UPS Teamster Part-time workforce.

The earliest (contractual) reference I can find is 1973.... for PT workers.

Prior to that, they where referred to as "student" workers.

IMO Part-timers and Full-timers should be paid the same.

Never gonna happen.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

IMO Part-timers and Full-timers should be paid the same.

If you want full-time wages take a full-time job

 

[PT Car Washer]

Where did you get this information?

I am interested in learning a little more about the origins and history of the UPS Teamster Part-time workforce.

I sense it was more than likely a concession and most likely UPS has abused the concession, like they do most concessions.

The UPS Teamster Part-time rank and file need to step up and exercise their overwhelming majority vote to get what they want.

Read it on a website years ago. Started in the early 60's (1962?) before UPS became a nation wide or world wide delivery service. UPS argued that there was not enough sorting and loading work for a FT employee with the different transit times. If the Teamster would allow PT employees they would pay the same as FT and the Union would collect the same dues from more Union members. I started in 1977 and except for Peak working PT was an excellent job. Weekends and Holidays off and great pay compared to other PT jobs. 50lb weight limit and very few irregs. FT pay was comparable to other Union jobs and sometimes a driver would quit to take another Union job with less OT and stress. The job was nothing like today with 200 stops being a normal day and moving furniture up to 150lbs.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Never gonna happen.

Not with that company attitude.

 

[PT Car Washer]

If you want full-time wages take a full-time job

I already receive FT wages. Equal pay for equal work.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I already receive FT wages. Equal pay for equal work.

You're not receiving equal pension

 

[PT Car Washer]

You're not receiving equal pension

You said wages. Pensions are a whole other issue.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

You said wages. Pensions are a whole other issue.

Well that is part of your pay package, even though you don't see it directly on your paycheck


So you're doing full-time work for less pension money

Got it.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Well that is part of your pay package, even though you don't see it directly on your paycheck


So you're doing full-time work for less pension money

Got it.

And where do those further pension payments go ? Nowhere.

The company has no other obligation after that.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And where do those further pension payments go ? Nowhere.

The company has no other obligation after that.

It goes right back in their pocket

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

I guess I struck a nerve with you.... when I joke about you not having the balls to do anything but complain ?

You don't strike a nerve. I laugh at you. Lol. I'm sure you're done for the day? Fore!
I would call it pointing out the obvious not complaining. But go ahead and pretend that you are a tough guy- here and when it comes to UPS. I still say they do as they please and that bothers YOU. Lol.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You don't strike a nerve. I laugh at you. Lol. I'm sure you're done for the day?

What can I help you with ?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

What can I help you with ?

I highly doubt you could help me watch grass grow. Fore! Oh shoot- it's lunch time. I've interrupted you. Lol.

 

[MisplacedRailWorker]

@MisplacedRailWorker Any news from the front?

My current rail is Canadian based. Therefore they do not have to participate in the government-regulated contract negotiations. Despite us being in the same unions as the other railroads.

If there’s one decent thing that my railroad did, it was ratify a new contract and give the 25% wage increase with backpay, ahead of time. So we did not have to strike.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Well that is part of your pay package, even though you don't see it directly on your paycheck


So you're doing full-time work for less pension money

Got it.

I am not FT. Just like all of the other PT members working FT hours. At least I make a decent wage.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I am not FT.

But you could have been if you chose to do so

So congratulations you're making full-time wages and get the part-time pension

I don't know what the difference is where you're at but it's a huge difference between 40 years full-time and 40 years part-time here

 

[PT Car Washer]

But you could have been if you chose to do so

So congratulations you're making full-time wages and get the part-time pension

I don't know what the difference is where you're at but it's a huge difference between 40 years full-time and 40 years part-time here

Max out after 35 years. Still contributing to 401k and SS. Why does this matter to you?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Max out after 35 years. Still contributing to 401k and SS. Why does this matter to you?

It does not matter to me but the pension contributions paid on your behalf, you are getting anything from them

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

Why does this matter to you?

FT UPS think they're really going to live it up with bad feet, ankles, knees, hips, backs and probably shoulders. After their wives have had 16 hours to themselves everyday for 20-30 years, the transition to sitting around the house all day should go super smooth...

For some divorce attorney!

 

[PT Car Washer]

It does not matter to me but the pension contributions paid on your behalf, you are getting anything from them

That's the way the system works. I would think you would be better off using your time and energy stopping management from performing Union work than to worry about a dues paying Union member performing Union work.