sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
Me on a plumbing job would be like The Stig coming in to do your job. Sounds, good in theory, but the completely wrong tools and skillset.
Seasonal PVD Pay Question
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Back From Break
I agree that any extra work, or Saturday or Sunday work, should go to any RPCD that wants it before a PVD gets it. But, let me ask you this.
Were these grievances filed after the fact?
Would these RPCD's have actually volunteered for the work?
Or did they just see an opportunity and want free money?
Poop Head
Judge me.
I know dude. It was a joke.
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Right now ups has the volume to handle pvds but in the future they might not and if you dont take care of things in the beginning it always comes back to hurt you
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Back From Break
OK. If UPS does not have the volume to handle PVD's in the future, do not hire any PVD's.
UPS has had seasonal package car drivers for decades. If they needed them during peak, they hired them. If they didn't need them, they didn't hire them.
A PVD is a dues paying seasonal package car driver that drives their personal vehicle instead of a package car or a UPS rented rental.
I am not against seasonal package car drivers, PVD's, or jumpers as long as they are only used during peak. And, yes I know, some Supplements allow vacation replacements during the summer. Without them, UPS could not deliver the dramatically increased package volume during peak, or allow as many employees as possible to take a summer vacation.
Transportation is not the only business that need to hire extra temporary help during "peak." Retail hires as many temps as transportation does. Warehousing, sales, customer service also hires thousands of temps. It's the nature of the beast.
The Union just needs to continue to keep a tight control on when, and how, these temporary jobs can be used.
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Nothing is ever temporary or seasonal
It's a violation of article 26 and it's something a company should definitely negotiate with the union.
And some people did want the extra overtime and they should have been offered to them first before the work was given away to the PVD drivers.
eats packages
Deranged lunatic
Thing is around these parts a jumper is always 5 times faster than a PVD I'm not joking.
A peak expansion that was friendly to organized labor would start any new labor inside the building first. And that means dramatically improving training practices that :eyeroll have been completely gutted along with the entire HR department.
A peak expansion that was friendly to organized labor would start any new labor inside the building first. And that means dramatically improving training practices that :eyeroll have been completely gutted along with the entire HR department.
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Back From Break
UPS has had seasonal package car drivers, jumpers, inside help, for decades. They are, and have always been, temporary.
No it is not. They are not forcing any package car driver to drive their personal vehicle.
I agree with this. Any extra work or overtime should be offered to RPCD's before utilizing any PVD.
True. But with COVID and drivers refusing to use jumpers, there is not much of an option left.
Jkloc420
Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
We will see what happens, all i know 20 years ago when i started we didnt have pvds but we also didnt have the amazon we got now either
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Back From Break
Yes, we will see. Although, we did have jumpers and seasonal package car drivers 20 years ago.
But as always the company does what it wants and refuses to negotiate any new changes with the union.
No it's going to take a year or two or three for it to get sorted out They will just do as they please.
That is what is wrong with our current leadership.
SorryLazyPOS
Big Kahuna Burger
Dude….. it took me seven years to make 40$/hr as an actual RPCD.Haha hopefully so! Just confused as to why the pay is significantly less this year. It's still great money, and I'm still very grateful for the opportunity, but $30 an hour was pretty nice!
542thruNthru
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Filed after the fact.
Yes, volunteered for Saturday but company refused to allow us to work. The other grievances we're filed because PVDs were sent to take our last 20 or so stops and get us off the clock. So we filed because the PVDs were taking our OT and already had reached their 8 hours.
Not how it went down but at the same time I wouldn't blame a driver for filing for the free money if the company is dumb enough to do it.
542thruNthru
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Took me more than double that amount of time.
SorryLazyPOS
Big Kahuna Burger
Don’t forget doing triple the work the PVDs are doing. For the same rate at least at my building.
sailfish
Master of Karate and Friendship for Everyone
Well make better ones.
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Back From Break
My position has always been that any extra work or OT is offered to any RPCD that wants it before it goes to any PVD.
We had a guy that liked to file on issues like this and collect free money when they didn't offer the work to him first. The funny thing is that every time they offered it to him first, he turned it down. He never did it once. But every time they didn't offer it to him, he filed for the time. Sorry, but I have an issue with this, although it is what it is.
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