Shinzo Abe assassinated

[PT 4 Life]

First I've heard that claim.

He did say the shooting wasn't political.

Famous pic of a Japanese socialist giving a speech and gets charged at with a sword. The man who stabbed him was right wing.

 

[newfie]

Well they hate them even more now. At least Germany apologized and recognize what they did was wrong.

not the germans that committed the atrocities but the ones that had to live with the shame.

 

[PT 4 Life]

if the man who killed Abe turns out to be part of the left it’ll be interesting times for politics in Japan.

 

[newfie]

Xenophobic place they don’t take well to outsiders

xenophobic or preservation of their culture?

 

[oldngray]

if the man who killed Abe turns out to be part of the left it’ll be interesting times for politics in Japan.

Politics in Japan is really dirty but almost all done behind closed doors.

 

[oldngray]

xenophobic or preservation of their culture?

Probably both but I think mostly xenophobic. Japan is probably the closest to a monoculture in the world and outsiders are definitely shunned if not worse.

 

[Thebrownblob]

So the US doesn't have a child suicide problem?

Of course they do That’s the point no place is immune

 

[MAKAVELI]

Of course they do That’s the point no place is immune

Except Japan is pretty much immune to gun deaths. Murder rate much less than the US as well.

 

[PT 4 Life]

xenophobic or preservation of their culture?

Both

 

[PT 4 Life]

not the germans that committed the atrocities but the ones that had to live with the shame.

Germany does a good though teaching about ww2 and it’s role in it. It’s extensively covered in schools.

 

[newfie]

Germany does a good though teaching about ww2 and it’s role in it. It’s extensively covered in schools.

agreed but to my point that germans that came later did all the apologizing very few of the germans who were part of that nigthmare apologized later. as a german born person i experienced being called a nazi when i entered american schools. any effort to question and understand how germany got sucked into the hitler fanaticism from my german relatives was dismissed and deflected.

 

[oldngray]

agreed but to my point that germans that came later did all the apologizing very few of the germans who were part of that nigthmare apologized later. as a german born person i experienced being called a nazi when i entered american schools. any effort to question and understand how germany got sucked into the hitler fanaticism from my german relatives was dismissed and deflected.

Anti German sentiment was probably worse around WW1 when many of them Americanized their names.

 

[newfie]

Anti German sentiment was probably worse around WW1 when many of them Americanized their names.

There is a lesson there to be learned that most liberal americans want to ignore.

controlling the guns.
packing the courts
legislating through the courts
eliminating a fair judicial process
eliminating the seperation of powers

these are issues that are near and dear to liberal hearts and how hitler took power in germany

 

[PT 4 Life]

agreed but to my point that germans that came later did all the apologizing very few of the germans who were part of that nigthmare apologized later. as a german born person i experienced being called a nazi when i entered american schools. any effort to question and understand how germany got sucked into the hitler fanaticism from my german relatives was dismissed and deflected.

yeah a lot people not going to ask why. I’m no Nazi sympathizer, but I do feel bad for the average German who probably had no intentions on being part of the German war machine.

 

[PT 4 Life]

There is a lesson there to be learned that most liberal americans want to ignore.

controlling the guns.
packing the courts
legislating through the courts
eliminating a fair judicial process
eliminating the seperation of powers

these are issues that are near and dear to liberal hearts and how hitler took power in germany

It was all timing in my opinion. Germany was in a dark place with ww1 and the ally treaties. Someone like Hitler got lucky, and honestly if it wasn’t him it would’ve just been someone else.

 

[oldngray]

It was all timing in my opinion. Germany was in a dark place with ww1 and the ally treaties. Someone like Hitler got lucky, and honestly if it wasn’t him it would’ve just been someone else.

The other European countries pretty much raped Germany after WW1 and the resentment it created allowed the Nazi rise to power.

 

[PT 4 Life]

The other European countries pretty much raped Germany after WW1 and the resentment it created allowed the Nazi rise to power.

Yeah pretty much, but imperial Germany really wasn’t any better. Nazis were basically imperial Germany on steroids.

 

[oldngray]

Yeah pretty much, but imperial Germany really wasn’t any better. Nazis were basically imperial Germany on steroids.

They had people like feeble old Bismark as figureheads.

 

[PT 4 Life]

They had people like feeble old Bismark as figureheads.

I’d rather take him.

 

[UnionStrong]

yeah a lot people not going to ask why. I’m no Nazi sympathizer, but I do feel bad for the average German who probably had no intentions on being part of the German war machine.

You would be wrong