The 2020 Presidential Debates

newfie

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So trump fans are really going with the Chris Wallace is unfair to trump and favored Biden because Chris Wallace asked trump to disavow white supremacists more than once..... I mean trump continues to absolutely humiliate his supporters.

which supporters? We're quite proud of trump . you realize his approval ratings amongst his supporters are higher than for any other republican candidate ever? Do you ever work off of facts?
 

refineryworker05

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which supporters? We're quite proud of trump . you realize his approval ratings amongst his supporters are higher than for any other republican candidate ever? Do you ever work off of facts?
Most trump supporters. I have no idea how trump supporters feel about trump. But in my opinion almost everyday of his presidency he humiliates those supporters. This thing about trump humiliating trump supporters is my opinion backed up by the difference between why trump fans said they supported trump and how trump behaves while in office, and the justifications trump fans feel they must give in order to justify their fandom of trump.
 

refineryworker05

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should have stopped right there. The polls show your theory is totally wrong
No because if someone is humiliating another person or group of people, the person/people who are being humiliated don't have to feel they are being humiliated for one to make that observation. For example, there is a kid who goes out of their way to be liked by their friends, they allow their friends to take advantage of them and maybe even allow their friends to make them the butt of jokes and treat them poorly, now the child doesn't like when his/her friends treat him/her badly so they try even harder to get those friends to like them and treat them better, now the kid doesn't feel that his/her friends are humiliating them, but that kid's parents can clearly see that they are.
 

The big package

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newfie

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No because if someone is humiliating another person or group of people, the person/people who are being humiliated don't have to feel they are being humiliated for one to make that observation. For example, there is a kid who goes out of their way to be liked by their friends, they allow their friends to take advantage of them and maybe even allow their friends to make them the butt of jokes and treat them poorly, now the child doesn't like when his/her friends treat him/her badly so they try even harder to get those friends to like them and treat them better, now the kid doesn't feel that his/her friends are humiliating them, but that kid's parents can clearly see that they are.

thats some bleeding heart nonsense. your theory is not supported by facts which shows extremely strong support from trump supporters.
it ignores that these supporters you claim embarrassed are showing up in droves for his rallies and often days ahead of time.
what you're trying to spin here is total nonsense devoid of any reality
 

refineryworker05

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Is it the same as the justifications Biden fans give to justify their fandom of a child molester?
Dude, there are videos, please don't try to defend it. It's NOT ok...
Biden has fans? Now Hiliary and Bill Clinton they have fans, and Obama has a lot of fans, but Biden?
As far as your claims against Biden, I have never heard of them and I certainly haven't heard anyone defend Biden over those claims.
 

refineryworker05

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thats some bleeding heart nonsense. your theory is not supported by facts which shows extremely strong support from trump supporters.
it ignores that these supporters you claim embarrassed are showing up in droves for his rallies and often days ahead of time.
what you're trying to spin here is total nonsense devoid of any reality
Bleeding heart? That makes no sense. I am not saying trump fans are embarrassed by trump. I am saying trump humiliates his fans that is different from being embarrassed and I gave an example of what I mean.
 

JJinVA

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Biden has fans? Now Hiliary and Bill Clinton they have fans, and Obama has a lot of fans, but Biden?
As far as your claims against Biden, I have never heard of them and I certainly haven't heard anyone defend Biden over those claims.

How do you drive a vehicle without any eyeballs? I have to assume you dont have any considering the atrocious amount of videos of Biden on youtube fondling little kids and sniffing them like some kind of weird :censored2: man-dog
 

vantexan

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Most trump supporters. I have no idea how trump supporters feel about trump. But in my opinion almost everyday of his presidency he humiliates those supporters. This thing about trump humiliating trump supporters is my opinion backed up by the difference between why trump fans said they supported trump and how trump behaves while in office, and the justifications trump fans feel they must give in order to justify their fandom of trump.
Guess what amigo? Declassified document shows the whole Russian narrative was created by Hillary's campaign to take attention away from her email scandal. And Obama, Comey, Strzok, and Brennan were all in on it. The whole 2 year Mueller investigation, all the accusations, all the liberals screaming traitor, all of it was to save Hillary's campaign. Look what you people have put the country through. And for what? We're more divided now than at any time since the Civil War. Trump's doing? Nope, Democrat partisans. Idiots.
 

It will be fine

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Guess what amigo? Declassified document shows the whole Russian narrative was created by Hillary's campaign to take attention away from her email scandal. And Obama, Comey, Strzok, and Brennan were all in on it. The whole 2 year Mueller investigation, all the accusations, all the liberals screaming traitor, all of it was to save Hillary's campaign. Look what you people have put the country through. And for what? We're more divided now than at any time since the Civil War. Trump's doing? Nope, Democrat partisans. Idiots.
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Box Ox

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Biden Scores 14-Point Lead Over Trump in Poll After Debate

"President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time.

The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them.

Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who directed the survey with Democrat Jeff Horwitt, cautioned that the poll was conducted during an unsettled moment after the caustic presidential debate—“a shock to the system,” he called it—and could reflect a temporary reassessment of views. “The public can be taking a moment to say, ‘What did I just see, and how do I feel about it?’” he said. Mr. Trump could regain ground, Mr. McInturff said, given that “he has a history of bouncing back to some set point.”

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JJinVA

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Biden Scores 14-Point Lead Over Trump in Poll After Debate

"President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time.

The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them.

Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who directed the survey with Democrat Jeff Horwitt, cautioned that the poll was conducted during an unsettled moment after the caustic presidential debate—“a shock to the system,” he called it—and could reflect a temporary reassessment of views. “The public can be taking a moment to say, ‘What did I just see, and how do I feel about it?’” he said. Mr. Trump could regain ground, Mr. McInturff said, given that “he has a history of bouncing back to some set point.”

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Ill vote for Trump regardless of what any polls say, but at the end of the day, I really dont care much because me and mine will be ok regardless. Its the lower income ppl who will be rioting once they realized they won a breadline, no job, and mountains of taxes in this political raffle. The amount of crime that will follow in the event of a Biden win will be justice enough for me, knowing a majority of the ppl that voted Biden will also be victims of his policies, if you can even call them policies lol. Ah well *shrug* Maybe once the US collapses Russia will send in their military and take us over. Or China. Bidens military will be too busy playing PC semantics and not offending tranny marines
 

DriveInDriveOut

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Most trump supporters. I have no idea how trump supporters feel about trump. But in my opinion almost everyday of his presidency he humiliates those supporters. This thing about trump humiliating trump supporters is my opinion backed up by the difference between why trump fans said they supported trump and how trump behaves while in office, and the justifications trump fans feel they must give in order to justify their fandom of trump.
No because if someone is humiliating another person or group of people, the person/people who are being humiliated don't have to feel they are being humiliated for one to make that observation. For example, there is a kid who goes out of their way to be liked by their friends, they allow their friends to take advantage of them and maybe even allow their friends to make them the butt of jokes and treat them poorly, now the child doesn't like when his/her friends treat him/her badly so they try even harder to get those friends to like them and treat them better, now the kid doesn't feel that his/her friends are humiliating them, but that kid's parents can clearly see that they are.
You're humiliating yourself on a daily basis with that kind of nonsense kiddo.
 

newfie

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Bleeding heart? That makes no sense. I am not saying trump fans are embarrassed by trump. I am saying trump humiliates his fans that is different from being embarrassed and I gave an example of what I mean.

that is equally as silly. Trump fans love the president . they are not humilated by him.
 

newfie

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Biden Scores 14-Point Lead Over Trump in Poll After Debate

"President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time.

The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them.

Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who directed the survey with Democrat Jeff Horwitt, cautioned that the poll was conducted during an unsettled moment after the caustic presidential debate—“a shock to the system,” he called it—and could reflect a temporary reassessment of views. “The public can be taking a moment to say, ‘What did I just see, and how do I feel about it?’” he said. Mr. Trump could regain ground, Mr. McInturff said, given that “he has a history of bouncing back to some set point.”

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ground hog day 2016 being repeated over and over
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Biden Scores 14-Point Lead Over Trump in Poll After Debate

"President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year in his re-election race following Tuesday’s contentious debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time.

The survey finds something rare in Journal/NBC News polling: evidence that an individual news event—the debate—is having a material effect on Mr. Trump’s political standing, at least for now. Significant events in the past, such as Mr. Trump’s impeachment by the House and acquittal by the Senate, had only hardened views of the president, not shifted them.

Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who directed the survey with Democrat Jeff Horwitt, cautioned that the poll was conducted during an unsettled moment after the caustic presidential debate—“a shock to the system,” he called it—and could reflect a temporary reassessment of views. “The public can be taking a moment to say, ‘What did I just see, and how do I feel about it?’” he said. Mr. Trump could regain ground, Mr. McInturff said, given that “he has a history of bouncing back to some set point.”

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What is the point of a nationwide poll of registered voters? Did the pollsters not learn anything from 2016?
 
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