The Border Crisis: Is Allowing Illegals To Flood In A Good Thing?

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Seriously? The Biden administration not only threw open the gates but worked with NGO's to encourage and assist people to come.

And we had some dumb šŸ«s that parroted that Biden wanted a secure boarder. The most secure boarder bill ever. 1.8 million a year let in šŸ¤£. Trump has trumped that with no bill needed!
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And we had some dumb šŸ«s that parroted that Biden wanted a secure boarder. The most secure boarder bill ever. 1.8 million a year let in šŸ¤£. Trump has trumped that with no bill needed!
Most estimates now when including gotaways are between 12 and 14 million. If Kamala had won we would have added over 25 million, supported by our government, in 8 years.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
I'm not very interested in the right. I'm interested in a sane left returning to Earth with some common sense.

Indeed. Sigh.

January 31, 2025

"Every candidate for Democratic National Committee chair agreed on Thursday that ā€œracism and misogyny played a roleā€ in former Vice President Kamala Harrisā€™ election defeat.

Eight DNC chair candidates, including former presidential candidate Marianne Williamson and former Social Security Administration Commissioner Martin Oā€™Malley, were part of an MSNBC forum at Georgetown University, where they answered various questions from network hosts Jen Psaki, Symone Sanders, and Jonathan Capehart. After a question from Capehart for all the candidates, each agreed that Harris lost to President Donald Trump partly because of a culture of racism and misogyny.

ā€œSo, Iā€™m going to have a show of hands. How many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harrisā€™ defeat?ā€ Capehart asked.

Every candidate quickly raised their hands as did the audience members.

ā€œThatā€™s good. You all passed,ā€ Capehart said."
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Indeed. Sigh.

January 31, 2025

"Every candidate for Democratic National Committee chair agreed on Thursday that ā€œracism and misogyny played a roleā€ in former Vice President Kamala Harrisā€™ election defeat.

Eight DNC chair candidates, including former presidential candidate Marianne Williamson and former Social Security Administration Commissioner Martin Oā€™Malley, were part of an MSNBC forum at Georgetown University, where they answered various questions from network hosts Jen Psaki, Symone Sanders, and Jonathan Capehart. After a question from Capehart for all the candidates, each agreed that Harris lost to President Donald Trump partly because of a culture of racism and misogyny.


ā€œSo, Iā€™m going to have a show of hands. How many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harrisā€™ defeat?ā€ Capehart asked.

Every candidate quickly raised their hands as did the audience members.

ā€œThatā€™s good. You all passed,ā€ Capehart said."
When stupid doesn't work what's the solution? Double down on stupid!
 

Gotta Go

Well-Known Member
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Over70irregs

Well-Known Member
If you was in a :censored2: hole country wouldnā€˜t you run to a country that gave you a preloaded visa, cell phone, free place to stay and a promise of free healthcare? That is what Biden and his supporters call boarder control.
Biden is old and done. Get the duolingo app learn spanish and claim your prize šŸ† if its so rich. Remember that was printed $.
 

Over70irregs

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Actually I think it's more than that. The Leftists want the millions to come not only to give the Democratic Party a voting edge eventually but to also fundamentally change the U.S. from a capitalist to a socialist model.
I believe capitalism is synonymous with bankruptcy. We are bankrupt and in denial stage. L/R doesnā€™t exist that is a psyop. This form of capitalism is socialist and WILL end it UBI to continue ponzi.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Was down there in the 80ā€™s. They were walking across then. We had a motorhome and traveled. It was common knowledge decades ago. Sounds like recency bias.
Name another 4 year period in the last 100 years when so many were coming in illegally? There was a time when people were coming in droves on ships to Ellis Island but that was legal. People have always come in through the southern border. In 1950 El Paso was about 150,000 and 80% white. In 2023 the estimated population is around 678,000 and 12% white. Most of El Paso's Hispanic population arrived after 1950 and of course had children.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I believe capitalism is synonymous with bankruptcy. We are bankrupt and in denial stage. L/R doesnā€™t exist that is a psyop. This form of capitalism is socialist and WILL end it UBI to continue ponzi.
It will continue because capitalism is decentralized. Only a centralized government that overspends to maintain control will go bankrupt. That's a major issue in why socialism doesn't work. You can have a prosperous capitalist system with social programs but once the emphasis is put on the programs and supporting citizens in exchange for votes you can only go so far before it collapses under its own weight. We have a government that spent too much then tried to inflate away the debt. That resulted in higher interest rates to combat the inflation which had the unfortunate side effect of greatly increasing the interest to service our debt. If we continue to add more debt we'll increase the interest to where just servicing the debt takes up most of our budget. That'll collapse our social programs and the government. So either we pull for a government that's determined to prevent that or we continue to insist the money keeps flowing until the collapse happens. Those holding bitcoin believe it'll get exponentially more valuable with the collapse but if the dollar collapses what will people buy bitcoin with? Bitcoin might be a legitimate store of value but let's see how it's turned into currency. As for UBI's if the plans to push AI and robotics does eventually eliminate 50% of current jobs then some kind of new system will have to be devised. Just another reason why letting in so many so fast doesn't make sense if a lot of future work is eliminated.
 

Over70irregs

Well-Known Member
It will continue because capitalism is decentralized. Only a centralized government that overspends to maintain control will go bankrupt. That's a major issue in why socialism doesn't work. You can have a prosperous capitalist system with social programs but once the emphasis is put on the programs and supporting citizens in exchange for votes you can only go so far before it collapses under its own weight. We have a government that spent too much then tried to inflate away the debt. That resulted in higher interest rates to combat the inflation which had the unfortunate side effect of greatly increasing the interest to service our debt. If we continue to add more debt we'll increase the interest to where just servicing the debt takes up most of our budget. That'll collapse our social programs and the government. So either we pull for a government that's determined to prevent that or we continue to insist the money keeps flowing until the collapse happens. Those holding bitcoin believe it'll get exponentially more valuable with the collapse but if the dollar collapses what will people buy bitcoin with? Bitcoin might be a legitimate store of value but let's see how it's turned into currency. As for UBI's if the plans to push AI and robotics does eventually eliminate 50% of current jobs then some kind of new system will have to be devised. Just another reason why letting in so many so fast doesn't make sense if a lot of future work is eliminated.
Well robots not doing roofs yet. But this guy had his roof job canceled. This is gonna be really funny costs wise. Everything is gonna skyrocket.
It will continue because capitalism is decentralized. Only a centralized government that overspends to maintain control will go bankrupt. That's a major issue in why socialism doesn't work. You can have a prosperous capitalist system with social programs but once the emphasis is put on the programs and supporting citizens in exchange for votes you can only go so far before it collapses under its own weight. We have a government that spent too much then tried to inflate away the debt. That resulted in higher interest rates to combat the inflation which had the unfortunate side effect of greatly increasing the interest to service our debt. If we continue to add more debt we'll increase the interest to where just servicing the debt takes up most of our budget. That'll collapse our social programs and the government. So either we pull for a government that's determined to prevent that or we continue to insist the money keeps flowing until the collapse happens. Those holding bitcoin believe it'll get exponentially more valuable with the collapse but if the dollar collapses what will people buy bitcoin with? Bitcoin might be a legitimate store of value but let's see how it's turned into currency. As for UBI's if the plans to push AI and robotics does eventually eliminate 50% of current jobs then some kind of new system will have to be devised. Just another reason why letting in so many so fast doesn't make sense if a lot of future work is eliminated.
1. Capitalism cannot be decentralized when you can stop a switch and stop trading.
2. How can a system be prosperous when people are working for $ that another man can print?
3. Humans cannot be in charge of $ it will never work. They ALL fail.
4. You wonā€™t be able to buy ā‚æ in the future. You will have to trade with goods and services. No one will want your $ coupon.
5. ā‚æ is already currency, store of value and unit of account.
6, That will change as far as immigration or you will end up like Italy. (Look it up)
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Well robots not doing roofs yet. But this guy had his roof job canceled. This is gonna be really funny costs wise. Everything is gonna skyrocket.

1. Capitalism cannot be decentralized when you can stop a switch and stop trading.
2. How can a system be prosperous when people are working for $ that another man can print?
3. Humans cannot be in charge of $ it will never work. They ALL fail.
4. You wonā€™t be able to buy ā‚æ in the future. You will have to trade with goods and services. No one will want your $ coupon.
5. ā‚æ is already currency, store of value and unit of account.
6, That will change as far as immigration or you will end up like Italy. (Look it up)
Good luck with all of that. You've got gold, er, Bitcoin fever.
 

Wally

BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
He won the election because people said they were tired of inflation, especially inflation in things like groceries and energy.
You left out massive amount of illegal's flooding in, defund the police, student loan being dumped onto others, tax payer funded tranny surgery, calling voters Hitler supporters, and supporting Kommie Harris as your candidate.
 
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