The ( OFFICIAL ) angry Contract results thread!

[hellfire]

Most of the part timers I know that worked over a year did vote. You need to realize if 65% of UPS is PT and 50% of the part time employees have worked at UPS UNDER two years and are going to school and UPS. They could care less about unions or the company. They’re getting tuition paid for and some cash on the side, that’s all they care about. So why is it required to have 50% vote? Thank seems unrealistic under our employment circumstances.

Hoffa didn’t make that rule, it’s in the ibt constitution. Right or wrong the deal is done

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Two years from this members will be chomping at the bit to get these jobs. You’ll see

I will disagree with you on that. We can't keep drivers at top rate. Now they will he doing the same job for less money and the company will pound the snot out of them

 

[clipperman]

Hoffa didn’t make that rule, it’s in the ibt constitution. Right or wrong the deal is done

Does anyone know the history behind this rule,who got it put in the constitution and why?

 

[mikejonesjr]

Because they had a higher turn out

My point was there isn't a best final offer yet, otherwise they wouldnt be going back to the table.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

My point was there isn't a best final offer yet, otherwise they wouldnt be going back to the table.

Looks like we all good a nice piece of a BS sandwich

 

[Returntosender]

All it took was a jet, a country club membership, and a years supplies of funions. Jimmy loves funions

 

[mikejonesjr]

Does anyone know the history behind this rule,who got it put in the constitution and why?

The 50% rule would have been relevant 25 years ago when UPS was seen as a career for most and tougher to get into. Now it's tough to keep people and most leave in 3 months so we can't expect 50% to vote when the current demographic shows 20% of workers are leaving in 3 months regardless. It's essentially saying this contract is forced ratified because 10,000 employees who are quitting during peak anyway didn't vote. This contract doesn't effect them why do we need them to vote!!

 

[clipperman]

The 50% rule would have been relevant 25 years ago when UPS was seen as a career for most and tougher to get into. Now it's tough to keep people and most leave in 3 months so we can't expect 50% to vote when the current demographic shows 20% of workers are leaving in 3 months regardless. It's essentially saying this contract is forced ratified because 10,000 employees who are quitting during peak anyway didn't vote. This contract doesn't effect them why do we need them to vote!!

But who installed it into our constitution in the first place and why

 

[BigBrown87]

I’m not a Hoffa fan but it’s not his fault 44% voted.

It will he his fault if he imposes this piece of crap contract. He has the option to go back to the table and with 44.5 turn out is not far from 50%. If he imposes this contract he will be gone in 2021 for sure, no Canada to save him this time.

 

[Skooney]

Then why is freight going to renogotiate? Why why did Denis T initially say package was going back to the table as well?

He didn't say package was going back.

He said they WOULD go back IF the company was agreeable. Do you just pick and choose words to fit your agenda, or do you actually listen?

 

[PT Car Washer]

It will he his fault if he imposes this piece of crap contract. He has the option to go back to the table and with 44.5 turn out is not far from 50%. If he imposes this contract he will be gone in 2021 for sure, no Canada to save him this time.

The man is 77 years old. Do you really think he cares about serving another term.

 

[Ghost in the Darkness]

Hoffa is a liar.

 

[babboo25]

It will he his fault if he imposes this piece of crap contract. He has the option to go back to the table and with 44.5 turn out is not far from 50%. If he imposes this contract he will be gone in 2021 for sure, no Canada to save him this time.

But he was given that option by poor turnout, take it out of his corrupt weasly hands.

 

[upsbeernut]

Any offer you vote on is the final offer.
Have you ever had anyone say to you "Vote on this. We have a final offer Tuesday, but we need you to vote on this one now"

Yeah supervision

 

[Over disciplined0123]

Most of the part timers I know that worked over a year did vote. You need to realize if 65% of UPS is PT and 50% of the part time employees have worked at UPS UNDER two years and are going to school and UPS. They could care less about unions or the company. They’re getting tuition paid for and some cash on the side, that’s all they care about. So why is it required to have 50% vote? Thank seems unrealistic under our employment circumstances.

That’s what I said previous post

 

[Wally]

Secede from the Teamsters! The UPS-North American Air/Freight/Ground Alliance is born.

 

[Brownslave688]

Absolutely. And this lame-ass electoral college argument is ridiculous. If 50% of the country doesn't vote in the next election do the results not count?

I found that comparison to be extremely week and very poor judgment on the IBT part.


So par for the course.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Secede from the Teamsters! The UPS-North American Air/Freight/Ground Alliance is born.

177 voted yes? No?

 

[Brownslave688]

All it took was a jet, a country club membership, and a years supplies of funions. Jimmy loves funions

I got a weak spot for funions.....


I am no longer mad. I totally understand.

 

[Wally]

177 voted yes? No?

Good question.