This Bee-Inspired Algorithm Helps Delivery Companies Plan The Most Efficient Route

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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The problem is you have development guys designing this that have no real world experience.

Ups needs technology and innovation but it needs to get out of this mindset that it is a tech company like google or Facebook and get back to basics of its core business.

You don't need real world experience to design route optimization software.
 

Orion inc.

I like turtles
Sure it will-----with a reduced workload (and hourly rate).

No it won't because they will never reduce the work load whether they are paying top rate or minimum wage. That's what you don't get. In their view, every car needs to go out beyond capacity.

In a small center like yours, you might apply that logic. But Dave, in big urban areas, that isn't the case. The Orion team even admitted this to a few of us that it wasn't designed with all the elements because they wanted implimented quickly instead of correctly.
 

Orion inc.

I like turtles
You don't need real world experience to design route optimization software.

Apparently you do or we would all be running it 100% with no issues.

And if it didn't have flaws, why release new versions of it in the future?

That's like saying I know how to design something for flying jets when I've never been a pilot.

Get the principle?
 

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)

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I am saying that during an extended work stoppage during which our volume would be greatly reduced it would be possible to put every car on the street with a reduced dispatch and a DIAD set up with Orion.
 

Orion inc.

I like turtles
I am saying that during an extended work stoppage during which our volume would be greatly reduced it would be possible to put every car on the street with a reduced dispatch and a DIAD set up with Orion.

Hate to inform you, but in big centers with driver shortages, every on road is already driving everyday. We have had it happen for weeks now. Why? Because they can't either qualify these guys or they don't want it after trying.

When learning any skill set, you have to have good basics no matter what. No tool will give that to you. Any good teacher will tell you that. My first aikido teacher told me constantly without roots that are strong and firm, nothing grows.

That applies in principle to what I'm conveying here. And it will part of Ups's long term issues

Also if there is an extended work stoppage, ups won't have to worry, they'll be out of business in today's logistics climate.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
The problem is you have development guys designing this that have no real world experience.

Ups needs technology and innovation but it needs to get out of this mindset that it is a tech company like google or Facebook and get back to basics of its core business.
The developers create functionality from requirements developed by the Operations User group who have many years of delivery and pickup experience and most have been on-car sups.
I don't know either but a lot of time several disparate systems DIAD, DCS, OCA, OPLD, XPLD, PAS, Forecasting, ORION, etc. will work towards an Enterprise level integrated system 5, 6 or maybe 10 years down the road.
There is always a 10 yr, 5 yr and 2 year plan that is being developed and revised by the Corporate Technology Strategy Group.
I was on assignment to that group in 1995-96 and almost every new technology and new service that has come out in the last 7 or 8 years were defined in that 6 month stretch in 95-96.
Who knows what 2020 at UPS will look like on the technology side of driver's day.
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
When learning any skill set, you have to have good basics no matter what. No tool will give that to you. Any good teacher will tell you that. My first aikido teacher told me constantly without roots that are strong and firm, nothing grows.

That applies in principle to what I'm conveying here. And it will part of Ups's long term issues.

I think I understand where you are coming from on this.
As an ex-IE in the Customer Technology Development Group, I quickly learned that a key component of developing software applications to be used by the end-customer is they have to be simple, intuitive and obvious.
When Internal applications are developed, professional User Interface (UI) specialists are not resourced to develop the UI.
They should be and many of the problems that new drivers have could be mitigated.

I came up with this saying to emphasize the importance,
"Drivers are a captured audience - we can train them.
Customers are an audience we have to capture and we can't train them".

UPS spend a million dollars a year for focus groups to test out UI approached before the UI for new or updated applications are ever developed.
 
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