this story never seems to go away

[over9five]

how was it altered?

Kenya scribbled out, USA penciled in.

 

[Jones]

Here's his birth certificate.

A federal judge already gunned down all this nonsense about him not being a citizen. The story won't go away for the same reason any other conspiracy theory won't go away, because some people make an emotional investment in it being true.

 

[av8torntn]

wow did he really?

how was it altered?

This is from memory but he has a website that is supposed to fight lies about him. They posted his birth certificate on it and it was missing the state seal or something. When Mr. Berg challenged this they pulled it from the campaign website and now his birth records in HI have been placed under seal. Of course factcheck.org and snopes have claimed they have seen the original and it is valid. Now to be fair to everyone McCain's eligibility was challenged and his campaign released his birth certificate. So the obvious question is what are they hiding? When you first hear of Mr. Berg you think of someone wearing a tin foil hat or a sore loser that Clinton lost, but when you watch his videos on youtube it is easy to get a different opinion. This would all be so easy to handle. Q. Sen. Obama are you a natural born citizen of the US? A. Yes and here is my birth certificate. My guess is that he is a citizen but very sloppy.

The thing is these guys are trying to claim they are open and honest. While there are multiple places online you can view the so called birth certificate then why have his birth records sealed in HI? With the connection between factcheck.org and Annenberg why not just have the campaign release it? All these things have fueled rampant speculation in a time when the voters should be focused on the failed B. Hussein policies.

 

[av8torntn]

Here's his birth certificate.

A federal judge already gunned down all this nonsense about him not being a citizen. The story won't go away for the same reason any other conspiracy theory won't go away, because some people make an emotional investment in it being true.

Is this a new ruling or is it the same one that said Berg did not have standing to bring the suit? All that did was add fuel to the conspiracy fire.

 

[av8torntn]

I think they were saying there was supposed to be some sort of raised seal in the lower right area.

 

[The Other Side]

All these things have fueled rampant speculation in a time when the voters should be focused on the failed B. Hussein policies.

Only rampant among those who would wish they had put up a decent candidate who could overcome the failures of 8 years of BUSH policies.

McCain himself has to not only distance himself from GW , but he has to attack him as well.

In his last three days, McCain has had to say that "this economy is in a ditch"....not good when you belong to the same party that ran it into that ditch.

I can hear it now "if we can only get our case to the supreme court, then our friends on the conservative side of the panel can overturn this election!"

Good luck with that.

Just vote. See how it comes out, then move on with your lives.

 

[av8torntn]

In his last three days, McCain has had to say that "this economy is in a ditch"....not good when you belong to the same party that ran it into that ditch.

I remember McCain was thinking about becoming a Dim. Did he actually make it official now? Oh and one more thing the attorney that brought the suit was an official Dim and a Hillary supporter.

 

[The Other Side]

I remember McCain was thinking about becoming a Dim. Did he actually make it official now? Oh and one more thing the attorney that brought the suit was an official Dim and a Hillary supporter.

And my response to this would be.....SO WHAT?

 

[av8torntn]

And my response to this would be.....SO WHAT?

Well I am sure you can agree that the Dims destroyed the economy in a mere two years right? You even started one of you many threads on this very topic. I know you have started so many it is hard for you to keep up. Last I checked McCain was still a repub and my question was are you saying he switched again?

 

[The Other Side]

Well I am sure you can agree that the Dims destroyed the economy in a mere two years right? I think you are confusing me with lieguy. I started a thread for lieguy to legitimize his claims that the DEMS destroyed the economy in 2 years and he could'nt nor could anyone else who tried.

You even started one of you many threads on this very topic. No I havent. thanks but no thanks.

I know you have started so many it is hard for you to keep up. Last I checked McCain was still a repub and my question was are you saying he switched again? Not sure where you get this from. My opinion about McCain is simple. He's unqualified, TOO OLD, unable to finish a sentence properly, cant hold a thought longer than 6 secs and demonstrated poor judgement when he selected SARAH PALIN as a running mate.

The top conservative talking heads are saying this today.

Either way, give it a rest dude. Race is almost over.

Vote and tell your friends to vote, then accept the outcome and move on with your life.

 

[av8torntn]

No I havent. thanks but no thanks

You must've let someone else use your screen name.

http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/claim-liberals-destroyed-the-economy-in-2-yrs.195080/

I do not normally read your partisan junk but the title clearly says liberals destroyed the economy in two years. Thread created by the other side.

 

[The Other Side]

You must've let someone else use your screen name.

http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/claim-liberals-destroyed-the-economy-in-2-yrs.195080/

I do not normally read your partisan junk but the title clearly says liberals destroyed the economy in two years. Thread created by the other side.

Dude, while I dont want to attack anyone, I think you are showing your intelligence level when you make this claim.

The posted topic is clearly spelled out, identified as to content and clearly a post asking for information.

You're begining to bore me, try a little harder to make a valid point.

 

[Catatonic]

Dude, while I dont want to attack anyone, ...

Okay, who believes that?

 

[Jones]

Is this a new ruling or is it the same one that said Berg did not have standing to bring the suit? All that did was add fuel to the conspiracy fire.

This ruling was from last Friday, back in August he had refused to grant Berg a temporary restraining order, but he has also refused to dismiss the case as requested by the Obama campaign. It's the nature of a conspiracy theory that it's generally pointless to try and stamp it out because pretty much anything is "fuel to the fire". Any evidence that seems to contradict the conspiracy is simply regarded as evidence of a further conspiracy.

 

[Babagounj]

This is not a birth certificate.
This is the certification of live birth.
Two very different items.
..............................................
A Certificate of live birth is issued when someone is born outside of the USA instead of a birth certificate.

Isn't Factcheck owned by a group that has connections to Ayers.
So I don't think they can be trusted .

The COLB shown has been declared a fake by many experts.

go to www.obamacrimes.com and read the info posted yourselves.
Because under rule 36 he already has admitted ,by not opposing the charges ,to being guilty.
I especially like the part where all of his names are listed, this guys has more aliases than most on the FBI 's top ten.

Answering the Q? of why the FBI, CIA, etc. haven't caught him yet.
Because technically there is no law enforcement agency in charge of checking if a canidate is a legal citizen.

 

[tieguy]

And my response to this would be.....SO WHAT?

It is missing the official seal. Without the seal its just another piece of paper.

You guys hear about his beloved aunt living in government subsidized housing on an expired visa?

wish the democrats had done their job so we would not have all these unsettled issues with O.

 

[The Other Side]

It is missing the official seal. Without the seal its just another piece of paper.

You guys hear about his beloved aunt living in government subsidized housing on an expired visa?

wish the democrats had done their job so we would not have all these unsettled issues with O.

2 points on this.

First, the woman in question is the "half-sister" of his father. Hardly a blood line connection. But to a republican looking to start trouble, I guess they could call it whatever "they" want.

Obama has no responsibility for this woman. A distant connection hardly makes a value or beloved. Obama has no obligation to do anything for this woman. No exageration makes this a viable campaign issue.

Second, how does this "non-Issue" make McCain qualified to be president?

Have'nt you all learned anything in these last three weeks??

This kind of nonsense is not RESONATING with the voters other than those already predispositioned to vote for McCain simply because he is republican.

2 days to go.

A new president will be elected and life can move on. Except for you guys looking under rocks.

 

[diesel96]

2 points on this.

A new president will be elected and life can move on. Except for you guys looking under rocks.

More like panhandlers digging thru dumpsters.

Mccain still doesn't get it, he spent most of his speech today attacking Obama instead of spelling out a plan to restore the economy and begin to pay off our debt.

 

[trplnkl]

I am not claiming this BC not to be valid, nor am I saying Obama was not born in the USA. However it does look strange to me and it's probably because there is no notary seal and signature. Over the years I have served as a board member for a local youth sports league (hardly an expert does that make me) and have seen many BCs from many different states, they all look different (Texas has at least three styles) but one thing they ALL had in common was that pesky little seal and signature. Does that mean anything here? HellifIknow.

 

[trplnkl]

2 points on this.

First, the woman in question is the "half-sister" of his father. Hardly a blood line connection. But to a republican looking to start trouble, I guess they could call it whatever "they" want.

Obama has no responsibility for this woman. A distant connection hardly makes a value or beloved. Obama has no obligation to do anything for this woman. No exageration makes this a viable campaign issue.

Second, how does this "non-Issue" make McCain qualified to be president?

Have'nt you all learned anything in these last three weeks??

This kind of nonsense is not RESONATING with the voters other than those already predispositioned to vote for McCain simply because he is republican.

2 days to go.

A new president will be elected and life can move on. Except for you guys looking under rocks.

I have resisted saying this but it has come to the point I must. Only a maroon would think that character is not important in a President, The questions of people (both Dem and Rep) delve into the character of Obama. Questions that he has either side-stepped or flat out lied about. Then when pinned down, he merely says, this isn't important to the American public, insert favorite topic is what's important. Well, I am an American and his character is indeed important to me. Do I expect him or anyother candidate to a perfect little angel? No, everyone has things in their lives they don't want in public view, but the experience, influences, and character are all part of the qualifying package for me. And for my own mind, Obama just has too many minuses and unanswered. If you are happy with that then good for you. These are indeed viable campaign issues. I'm not sure how they effect McCain qualifications though. Oh yeah, I have learned many things in the last three weeks. The biggest thing I have learned is that BHO is more sleezy than I originally thought and is socialist at heart.