Trump Tariffs has Countries ready to retaliate?

[vantexan]

True. But this one is self inflected. Kind of like if smoot hawley act. And let’s just say the market does go up, which it will. Wouldn’t it actually be higher if it wasn’t for the 5000 dip this month?
Besides, these businesses will either stay overseas and pass is along the costs or build here using a lot more expensive labor while still raising the cost. Either way, we will pay more. So it is a lose/lose proposition

Or, in order to get Trump to call off the tariff many countries will drop protectionist policies and allow us to sell in their markets on a more even playing field. That will increase manufacturing jobs here and open up better employment opportunities in fields like engineering. And it won't happen overnight or with a wave of the hands. But we have to start somewhere.

 

[Doublestandards]

Or, in order to get Trump to call off the tariff many countries will drop protectionist policies and allow us to sell in their markets on a more even playing field. That will increase manufacturing jobs here and open up better employment opportunities in fields like engineering. And it won't happen overnight or with a wave of the hands. But we have to start somewhere.

Wait so the goal is to call or tariffs now? Trump has said they’re permanent and people saying it’s a way to drop income tax

Why does it keep changing?

 

[newfie]

Wait so the goal is to call or tariffs now? Trump has said they’re permanent and people saying it’s a way to drop income tax

Why does it keep changing?

pretty simple to understand for most of us.

 

[Doublestandards]

pretty simple to understand for most of us.

So which is it? The tariffs are a negotiating tactic to get free trade, or the tarrifs are a long term permanent goal to become a tariff country as Trump called it and have manufacturing done at home and eliminate income tax?

 

[newfie]

So which is it? The tariffs are a negotiating tactic to get free trade, or the tarrifs are a long term permanent goal to become a tariff country as Trump called it and have manufacturing done at home and eliminate income tax?

I hope i don't hurt your feelings but the president does not feel the need to tell you what he's going to do before he does it.
there's this thing called negotiations and if he tells you then he tells the guys he's negotiating with.
for now you'll have to be satisfied with manufacturing controversy.

 

[Doublestandards]

I hope i don't hurt your feelings but the president does not feel the need to tell you what he's going to do before he does it.
there's this thing called negotiations and if he tells you then he tells the guys he's negotiating with.

So in other words you don’t know what the plan is, and you just go along with whatever he says and don’t think for yourself

Exactly what I thought, thank you for confirming

 

[newfie]

So in other words you don’t know what the plan is, and you just go along with whatever he says and don’t think for yourself

you're asking me to repeat what I've told you 1000 times. I choose not too.

Exactly what I thought, thank you for confirming

you're absolutely welcome , better yet browncafe will thank me for not filling up their pages with redundant circular arguments.

 

[vantexan]

Wait so the goal is to call or tariffs now? Trump has said they’re permanent and people saying it’s a way to drop income tax

Why does it keep changing?

Why is everything all or nothing with you? Do you not understand that an agreement with one country may look very different with another? That this whole exercise is about putting the U.S. in a better position economically? Not the government's job to keep you informed on every detail they're working on. Only report the results.

 

[Doublestandards]

Why is everything all or nothing with you? Do you not understand that an agreement with one country may look very different with another? That this whole exercise is about putting the U.S. in a better position economically? Not the government's job to keep you informed on every detail they're working on. Only report the results.

Trump is an elected official. He works for us. Not all of us are in a cult like you guys and blindly trust everything he does

 

[vantexan]

Trump is an elected official. He works for us. Not all of us are in a cult like you guys and blindly trust everything he does

It's not your right or privilege to be held by the hand and walked through everything. Representative republic. Look it up.

 

[Doublestandards]

It's not your right or privilege to be held by the hand and walked through everything. Representative republic. Look it up.

I did look it up, and get conflicting contradictory answers. And when ask about it you say to just go with it and believe whatever he says. Thats not how this is supposed to work

And it ignores the fact of what a stupid strategy that is. If we don’t know, then neither do businesses. How are they supposed to plan their business if they don’t know what the plan is?

 

[vantexan]

I did look it up, and get conflicting contradictory answers. And when ask about it you say to just go with it and believe whatever he says. Thats not how this is supposed to work

And it ignores the fact of what a stupid strategy that is. If we don’t know, then neither do businesses. How are they supposed to plan their business if they don’t know what the plan is?

I never said any such thing. I just believe your motives aren't about your concern for the markets as much, by a long shot, as they are about finding anything to attack Trump.

We're all waiting to see how this turns out. Fair minded people understand that it's about trying to improve the economic climate for business. Instead of manufacturing angst maybe you should wait and see if we can improve manufacturing real goods in the States?

 

[Doublestandards]

I never said any such thing. I just believe your motives aren't about your concern for the markets as much, by a long shot, as they are about finding anything to attack Trump.

We're all waiting to see how this turns out. Fair minded people understand that it's about trying to improve the economic climate for business. Instead of manufacturing angst maybe you should wait and see if we can improve manufacturing real goods in the States?

You said “Not the government's job to keep you informed on every detail they're working on. Only report the results.”

So, again, how are businesses supposed to plan and operate their business if they don’t know what the plan and goal is? Are tariffs long term and permanent and they should move manufacturing here, or are tariffs a negotiating tactic for free trade and they should wait and continue operating over seas for maximum profitability?

 

[vantexan]

You said “Not the government's job to keep you informed on every detail they're working on. Only report the results.”

So, again, how are businesses supposed to plan and operate their business if they don’t know what the plan and goal is? Are tariffs long term and permanent and they should move manufacturing here, or are tariffs a negotiating tactic for free trade and they should wait and continue operating over seas for maximum profitability?

Exactly what plans and goals did the last administration tell everyone? They kept posting phony jobs numbers that they had to adjust way down. They caused the spike in inflation. How do businesses adjust and plan for that? Trump has been clear what he's attempting and he was clear that it would cause some pain. But you're not looking to give it a chance, just attack it from any angle possible.

 

[newfie]

Trump is an elected official. He works for us. Not all of us are in a cult like you guys and blindly trust everything he does

so you manufacture controversy out of frustration?

 

[Doublestandards]

so you manufacture controversy out of frustration?

Being against sending Americans to a third world prison isn’t manufacturing controversy

Guantanamo bay used to be a controversial subject. Now the president and some of you are comfortable doing the same to American citizens

I wouldn’t even have imagined maga could sink that low, now I’m wondering how much lower you could be convinced to go

 

[vantexan]

Being against sending Americans to a third world prison isn’t manufacturing controversy

Guantanamo bay used to be a controversial subject. Now the president and some of you are comfortable doing the same to American citizens

I wouldn’t even have imagined maga could sink that low, now I’m wondering how much lower you could be convinced to go

Keep looking up, you'll eventually see us coming lower.

 

[newfie]

Being against sending Americans to a third world prison isn’t manufacturing controversy

Guantanamo bay used to be a controversial subject. Now the president and some of you are comfortable doing the same to American citizens

I wouldn’t even have imagined maga could sink that low, now I’m wondering how much lower you could be convinced to go

i wouldnt worry about its something Trump likes to talk about to get the snowflakes riled up

 

[Over70irregs]

I thought there was a plan seriously. Stepping back the plan is pure Brinkmanship…….

 

[Box Ox]

I thought there was a plan seriously.

Oh there is. Its full breadth and genius just hasn’t been revealed to us yet.