UPS to freeze pension plans for nonunion staffers

[twoweeled]

It definitely doesn't suck to be retired management.

Retired management are definitely looking good, financially. I look good like Brad Pitt! Unfortunately, I'm financially embarrassed. but I get you ugly!!!

 

[twoweeled]

You mean like actively employed UPS Drivers did to the retired drivers in the last contract?
I didn't vote on this however.

OUCH!!!! That truth talking is like an ol Batman punch. POW!! Wham!! Kapow!! Stomp!! No doubt the retirees got screwed, but that screwing is going to get all active employees too! But it'll be even worse then. That door has been opened.

 

[JustAnotherMike]

If you were 25 and just made book being a ft driver, and got offered a management position .... with all the bs going on, would you stick with driving or take your chances in management ?

Or put nothing towards pension and add to my Roth IRA

 

[upschuck]

I bet whoever came up with, and approved this idea retires within the next 5 years.

 

[Poop Head]

Not sure if this was discussed. Will this effect non-union hourlies in RTW states?
Do they even get a pension to begin with?

 

[twoweeled]

Out west it's in the good

Out west it is good, relatively speaking. But how good is it? I also wonder if any shenanigans could be implimented to help others? I read the rating sometime back. It's good, but how good? I'm asking, not telling.

 

[twoweeled]

You couldn't retire on a couple Million?

Without the pension, I wouldn't feel secure with $2 million. That's just me. Sure even with a 5% return, we're talking about $100,000 (I hope my math isn't all screwed up again). But I'm just not sure How secure I would feel about the next years ahead. Just me.

 

[upschuck]

Not sure if this was discussed. Will this effect non-union hourlies in RTW states?
Do they even get a pension to begin with?

No, that is the problem with RTW, get all the benefits, pays nothing for the representation.

 

[JustAnotherMike]

East coast ??

 

[Poop Head]

No, that is the problem with RTW, get all the benefits, pays nothing for the representation.

Dangit all!!!! I hope they all burn in heck!!

 

[Poop Head]

East coast ??

Beast Coast
*Flex*

 

[JustAnotherMike]

Beast Coast
*Flex*

Nj in decent shape?

 

[Poop Head]

Nj in decent shape?

Joizy is jacked brah! Highest steroid use per capita in the nation. Got nothin to worry about

 

[JustAnotherMike]

Joizy is jacked brah! Highest steroid use per capita in the nation. Got nothin to worry about

Idk wtf you're talking about crown lol

 

[twoweeled]

You didn't correct it. That recession began in 1995. I don't believe bush was president, but bush did continue the corrupt policies. Hopefully that will never happen again.

I bet you listen to a lot of Hannity or Rush? I'm pretty sure we were just fine, if we were in the market in 1995. Try to color it whichever way you want. I'd be tickled to have another return like we did during Clinton. Now the Nasdaq may have happened in the very tail end of Clinton. Not sure. But I would take another Clinton return on my 401K in a second flat. Bottom line.

 

[Brownslave688]

Idk wtf you're talking about crown lol

Oh come on @RonBurgandy?????????? you know.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Oh come on @RonBurgandy?????????? you know.

Wut?

 

[twoweeled]

How much does UPS match?

As is always the case with the company and the Union. We have to read that fine print. It's never as rosy as it first sounds.

 

[Brownslave688]

Wut?

Roid rage.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

Roid rage.

FU