UPS workers claim holiday disaster looms as they threaten to strike

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

As long as the mediation board tells them they have to?
I don't know - you tell me.

This has been going on for a good while.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How long should they work without a contract?

Absolutely!!! It's a fing joke!!

I agree

They are working under an extension of the existing contract.

 

[Dhydratd]

I agree and disagree. There are lots of things that are different today than back in the day. Fuel prices, DOT laws and regulations, taxes and tons of other things. This isn't a 30 year job anymore and the company needs to take money where it can get it. Ppl on brown cafe want to deliver 50 stops with single boxes under 5 lbs and still be paid $36 an hour with Max benefits etc. You have to pay the bills and that wouldn't do it.

I disagree. I just want a fair day's work for a fair day's pay. 130-150 stops/day on most of the resi routes in my center would be fair. The 180 to 220 stops/day UPS is forcing on our drivers is not. 8.5 to 9.5 hours/day would be fair, but UPS insists on 10.5 to 13 hours/day which is not.

 

[Coldworld]

They took a vote to approve a strike last year. It was overwhelmingly approved. This meant that the negotiations went to mediation. After a year of getting nowhere they are asking to be released from mediation so they can follow thru with the strike.

Let them

They are working under an extension of the existing contract.

you know how long it has been dave.. it's time to get them a contract...it's just like what they did with the pilots ...

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

...but UPS insists on 10.5 to 13 hours/day which is not.

They do?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Let them

you know how long it has been dave.. it's time to get them a contract...it's just like what they did with the pilots ...

We have had local school districts go as long as 5 years under a previous agreement.

 

[brownIEman]

I thought ups was barely making any money off of business to home deliveries....so which is it??? You are probably one of the people who use to tout that ups only makes a penny profit off of every ground package... I started hearing that one 25 years ago....

UPS does make very little off each b to r packages, but that is where most of the volume growth is coming from.

 

[Coldworld]

UPS does make very little off each b to r packages, but that is where most of the volume growth is coming from.

Air volume has grown 10% in average for years.....nice try

 

[Coldworld]

We have had local school districts go as long as 5 years under a previous agreement.

You think that is ok???

 

[Coldworld]

They do?

I go to many building and see guys rolling back at 9 or 10 all the time...it is being abused

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You think that is ok???

Of course not.

Contracts are basically unchanged outside of the financials.

Back/retro pay is pretty sweet!

 

[brownIEman]

Air volume has grown 10% in average for years.....nice try

Is most of that b to b or b to r?
Air or ground the greatest volume growth is in business to residential.

 

[brownIEman]

I go to many building and see guys rolling back at 9 or 10 all the time...it is being abused

You are taking about drivers. This thread is about airplane mechanics.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

I thought ups was barely making any money off of business to home deliveries....so which is it??? You are probably one of the people who use to tout that ups only makes a penny profit off of every ground package... I started hearing that one 25 years ago....

My center averages between 3-5 cents profit per package.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Air volume has grown 10% in average for years.....nice try

10%? Yeah not quite. And you say IE pulls numbers out of their ass

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Let them

you know how long it has been dave.. it's time to get them a contract...it's just like what they did with the pilots ...

And the pilots each got a nice 60,000 dollar retro check...let me go shed a tear for them

 

[Coldworld]

You are taking about drivers. This thread is about airplane mechanics.

Dave was talking about drivers...

 

[Coldworld]

10%? Yeah not quite. And you say IE pulls numbers out of their ass

Ok ...enlighten us... ol wise one...I don't think I'm that far off

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And the pilots each got a nice 60,000 dollar retro check...let me go shed a tear for them

How much interest did UPS make off of that money?

 

[Coldworld]

And the pilots each got a nice 60,000 dollar retro check...let me go shed a tear for them

I know you are a little touchy about the pilots since you were close to getting a job with the civic air patrol instead of a ups pilot gig but no need to be hating on those pre-Madonna's