US Economy

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

But everyone knows they have more money if the rate goes down. Isn't the point of negotiations to get more money for the union members?

As I said above, nowhere in the tax laws does it require the company to earmark all of their savings to their labor costs.

 

[Jkloc420]

Corporate tax rate has zero impact on our contract negotiations.

lmao, you got to be kidding right. Do you know how much extra money ups gets if that goes through

 

[Jkloc420]

ups wouldnt be pushing so hard for the senate and the house to get it done. it is even a story on here about it

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

lmao, you got to be kidding right. Do you know how much extra money ups gets if that goes through

Please show me where the tax laws dictate that any money saved as a result of a corporate tax restructuring must be used to give the employees a pay raise.

This is why I prefer not to talk economics with the uninformed.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

ups wouldnt be pushing so hard for the senate and the house to get it done. it is even a story on here about it

They are pushing to get it done as it will help to stimulate the economy by creating jobs and repatriating funds currently being held overseas.

 

[Jkloc420]

Please show me where the tax laws dictate that any money saved as a result of a corporate tax restructuring must be used to give the employees a pay raise.

This is why I prefer not to talk economics with the uninformed.

it means ups has more money and if are union is any good they will request equipment upgrades and better raises. It is called being smart

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

it means ups has more money and if are union is any good they will request equipment upgrades and better raises. It is called being smart

The Union can't tell the Company how to run their business.

 

[Jkloc420]

Please show me where the tax laws dictate that any money saved as a result of a corporate tax restructuring must be used to give the employees a pay raise.

This is why I prefer not to talk economics with the uninformed.

you do realize it is contract negotiations right

 

[Jkloc420]

The Union can't tell the Company how to run their business.

The union makes demands, the company either accepts or declines. Thats part of negotiations

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

you do realize it is contract negotiations right

The union makes demands, the company either accepts or declines. Thats part of negotiations

Again, this is why I prefer not to interact with uninformed.

 

[Jkloc420]

Again, this is why I prefer not to interact with uninformed.

why do you think the contract was voted down twice the last time and then forced through. Do you think members are going to let ups off the hook, knowing they get a 20 percent corporate rate.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Flat out true. Google is your friend.

You're wrong as usual

 

[It will be fine]

what part of that statement did you disagree with?

The entire premise that a lower corporate tax rate will cause an acceleration of GDP growth, and job creation.

 

[Non sequitur]

As I said above, nowhere in the tax laws does it require the company to earmark all of their savings to their labor costs.

Ups management already knows they need to give the part timers more money. When revenue and profits are rich attitudes and wages get better.

 

[vantexan]

You're wrong as usual

If you say so. But Google is still your friend. There, you have one.

 

[vantexan]

Please show me where the tax laws dictate that any money saved as a result of a corporate tax restructuring must be used to give the employees a pay raise.

This is why I prefer not to talk economics with the uninformed.

Who's saying the tax laws dictate it? But negotiations aren't about giving one side a much better deal than the other. It's about reaching an agreement both parties can live with. If the union wants more money, and the company has more money, stands to reason the company may have to be generous enough to keep the union happy. And avoid a strike.

 

[Jkloc420]

The entire premise that a lower corporate tax rate will cause an acceleration of GDP growth, and job creation.

some will invest, some will hire and some will horde, some will build. However what you cant argue is there will be a butt load more money to do it

 

[Jkloc420]

Who's saying the tax laws dictate it? But negotiations aren't about giving one side a much better deal than the other. It's about reaching an agreement both parties can live with. If the union wants more money, and the company has more money, stands to reason the company may have to be generous enough to keep the union happy. And avoid a strike.

they dont understand

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

they dont understand

neither does he, he's a retired fed ex employee pretending to understand how our negotiations work lol

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

some will invest, some will hire and some will horde, some will build. However what you cant argue is there will be a butt load more money to do it

Many large companies will use it for dividends and buy backs.
Trickle down just doesn't happen.