Why collective bargaining?

[Ron Carey lives on]

Didn't say 18/hr was there starting wage. You are slipping smurf

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[Ron Carey lives on]

I don't hate anybody smurf, you are entitled to your opinions, but your opinions are not necessarily facts. Maybe one day you will be proud to be a teamster again. Hoffa is not the Teamsters, Sandy Pope is not the Teamsters, look in the mirror to see your union

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[Atomic_Smurf]

Didn't say 18/hr was there starting wage. You are slipping smurf

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You didn't have to. I looked it up. Most jobs start at $18+hr at Armstrong's non-union mines + bonuses & benefits. It takes well over a decade to make $18hr under Teamster representation & will take much longer when our union starts keeping our pay raises to cover for its inability to decipher pro-worker legislation from bad.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

The mines didn't fall through. They have no seniority, no representation for now. Like I said UMWA are on the way

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I have no problem with the UMWA If that's what workers want. I just hope they represent their members better that what we've seen from our leadership.

 

[upschuck]

You didn't have to. I looked it up. Most jobs start at $18+hr at Armstrong's non-union mines + bonuses & benefits. It takes well over a decade to make $18hr under Teamster representation & will take much longer when our union starts keeping our pay raises to cover for its inability to decipher pro-worker legislation from bad.

In case you don't know, different industries pay differently. Compare UPS with places like FedEx, DHL, and others of that ilk, and you will see a much higher total wage and benefit package.

Just curious, did you check what union mines start at?

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

In case you don't know, different industries pay differently. Compare UPS with places like FedEx, DHL, and others of that ilk, and you will see a much higher total wage and benefit package.

Just curious, did you check what union mines start at?

No I didn't see what union mines in that area start at. That is, if there are even any union mines left in the non-RTW state of Ky . Do you know?

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

I don't hate anybody smurf, you are entitled to your opinions, but your opinions are not necessarily facts. Maybe one day you will be proud to be a teamster again. Hoffa is not the Teamsters, Sandy Pope is not the Teamsters, look in the mirror to see your union

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Only my Union isn't getting better looking each day...

I'll be proud to be a Teamster again when our union leaders stop exploiting our labor as a means of providing election funds & tax revenue to Washington politicians who's hold on power depends on the constant expansion of the welfare state & keeping people dependent which is antithetical to the success of the American worker. Probably won't be this week.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I'll be proud to be a Teamster again when our union leaders stop exploiting our labor as a means of providing election funds & tax revenue to Washington politicians who's hold on power depends on the constant expansion of the welfare state & keeping people dependent which is antithetical to the success of the American worker.

Says the person.... who's avatar.... looks like a gay unicorn.

You are one badass Teamster.



-Bug-

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Says the person.... who's avatar.... looks like a gay unicorn.

You are one badass Teamster.



-Bug-

Lol. I hoped the avatar might help me seem less abrasive. Maybe this video will do the trick...

 

[upschuck]

No I didn't see what union mines in that area start at. That is, if there are even any union mines left in the non-RTW state of Ky . Do you know?

Google shows plenty.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Google shows plenty.

I know how to google. Just thought it'd be more fun to hear it from you.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

If you are outraged, vote. If you are not proud to be a union member, quit. You offer no alternatives. You vent on brown cafe, and probably make at the very least 80,000 a year ( if you are full-time) because you have a union job. Did I move to Canada when W. was selected president, no. Did I turn in my union card when hoffa was elected, no. Did I stop being Catholic because of priests scandals, no. If your answer is to give up gi ahead. I wull never give up on collective bargaining

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[Ron Carey lives on]

Oh yeah you can't vote for union officials, if you opt out, or run for union office or vote on contracts. Right to work without a voice but brown cafe, sad smurfy

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