If your a permanent FT employee, you should have the right to work before junior PTers. Sorry but it's true.
Why did Ken H resign as UPS Package Director, Local 175 & JC 94?
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Without digging it out...
Do you mean they get the increases as well? Is that what you're talking about?
With Trump and the GOP about to jam National Right To Work down our pie holes we have bigger danger on the horizon.
5habits100
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If they are new hires and have made seniority they would be making $15 an hour per article 41 section 3 when they bump inside.
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Thx! That saved me a trip out to my briefcase in the truck.
5habits100
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That why you like me so much. I'm here to help.
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THIS is what this forum should be about.
There's no reason why the brotherhood of Teamsters should hate each other (except for scabs in USNY of course).
Respect goes a long way towards arriving at destinations intact with a future for the next generation.
That's what I'm here for.
This is something I'm making a commitment to working on. If you can just bare with my punctuation and English shortcomings. I can make up for it with better language and also contract language.
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Maybe @cheryl will take notice? We're all playing nice now.
Please let Leadbelly 2.0 back in the clubhouse?
(Trade you an USNYer for it even up.)
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The pension and healthcare funds are not run by the same people.
Those are kind words. I appreciate them.
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The money for both funds are for sure handled by the same people, in the same offices, many drawing two salaries.
I used to have a printout of their salaries awhile back.
I'm sure if it wasn't the case, more people on this site beside you would be bristling at the notion.
So is TeamCare.
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Then why don't you have as good coverage as us?
I'm not in TeamCare and I have better coverage than you.
BrownBrokeDown
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Came on the site to see if I could find anything on the Hoffa hall situation and thought I would throw somethings out to be pondered by the people that might be able to suggest them. A little background, I am currently on my way out at ups, I got a route sales job (it's teamster, woot) that I'm a cover driver for and working monstrous hours right now plus money's good, so barely squeezing ups In right now and won't be much longer. Ok so to the ideas, just throwing them out for you guys to ponder my horse is close to being shot.
Ft drivers that get bumped and laid off can double shift (at least I have seen it in my area) so while they aren't bringing home a driver check it is a 40 hr paycheck. Cover drivers don't have that luxury. I could have been a cover several years ago except for the fact it's hard to hold a ft job along with it. And when they don't work they get a pt check as their income. The route job I have, has in the contract a guarenteed paycheck total that cover drivers get when they are not covering a route. They have to show up, and do whatever the sups want them to do but it's a paycheck. Roughly 66% of the avg route check. Obviously 66% wouldn't work at ups but....this might help build the bridge between pt and going ft a little easier when it can take years and years for the opportunity
I don't know about everyone else's hubs, but how many pt new hires in the last 5 years were over the age of 25? The majority of the kids that come in don't care about pension/healthcare/etc. if you want true part time backing the wages have to be significantly increased to bring in people that do care about those things. Let's be honest, in right to work states the kids don't join the union, they wouldn't vote even if they did, and a lot of them sure give us a bad name with their laziness. TEAMSTERS need good quality employees for their examples to the public as much as the company does to make money
You have to take care of the retirees. The increases to the retiree healthcare monthly payment are a joke. Figure a way out of it. It is irresponsible and reprehensible to sell out the retirees just because they can't vote. Their pensions don't increase every contract. FIX IT. If it means a smaller ft raise so be it. If it means anything that's reasonable it's worth it. Just remember, you will be in that position someday.
Might think of a few more later to add.
Ft drivers that get bumped and laid off can double shift (at least I have seen it in my area) so while they aren't bringing home a driver check it is a 40 hr paycheck. Cover drivers don't have that luxury. I could have been a cover several years ago except for the fact it's hard to hold a ft job along with it. And when they don't work they get a pt check as their income. The route job I have, has in the contract a guarenteed paycheck total that cover drivers get when they are not covering a route. They have to show up, and do whatever the sups want them to do but it's a paycheck. Roughly 66% of the avg route check. Obviously 66% wouldn't work at ups but....this might help build the bridge between pt and going ft a little easier when it can take years and years for the opportunity
I don't know about everyone else's hubs, but how many pt new hires in the last 5 years were over the age of 25? The majority of the kids that come in don't care about pension/healthcare/etc. if you want true part time backing the wages have to be significantly increased to bring in people that do care about those things. Let's be honest, in right to work states the kids don't join the union, they wouldn't vote even if they did, and a lot of them sure give us a bad name with their laziness. TEAMSTERS need good quality employees for their examples to the public as much as the company does to make money
You have to take care of the retirees. The increases to the retiree healthcare monthly payment are a joke. Figure a way out of it. It is irresponsible and reprehensible to sell out the retirees just because they can't vote. Their pensions don't increase every contract. FIX IT. If it means a smaller ft raise so be it. If it means anything that's reasonable it's worth it. Just remember, you will be in that position someday.
Might think of a few more later to add.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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That's a lot of words in which nothing of substance was said.
BrownBrokeDown
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In comparison with your one liners where all you say is "I'm a self-serving, anti-Union, pro-management d***, that actually believes I'm such a valued employee that I would be making the same wages/pensions/healthcare if there was no Union."?
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