Rather have the super cold temps than snow ad ice. You can get through the super cold temps with tons of clothes on and isnt nerve wracking like snow and ice. It was like 14 here yesterday and had the following gear on and it was really windy mind you also. 3 pairs of sox, high duck boots on, 5 pairs of pants( 3 pairs of tights 1 pair sweatpants and heavy trousers) 7 shirts on( all tight long sleeve thermals) n long sleeve size 2xl ups shirt n 2 winter hats. Needless to say my goal is to not feel the cold in the least lil bit at all which i always accomplish. Never feel the cold in the least lil bit except for my face. Always cracks me up when these dumbasses i work with are like i froze my nuttz off today, its like wear enough layers you freakin idiots and to top it off some of them wear no winter hat. PHUQKIN DUMBASZZES DUDE lmfao. Yup i know im a get it like, man i cant believe you can move with that many clothes on. The pants i ordered are size 40 and i usually wear a size 34. I purposely order them super big just for the purpose of layers. I know im super anal and super ocd, everything i do is about perfection and precision lmfao.