1 in 4 women have abortions? Wow.

[bacha29]

Of course we should take care of the needy. That's not the same as bringing people in illegally and taking care of them. Why put them through the dangers of making them come to our southern border? Just send all our money over to their countries. Let's support everyone.

Until there is a genuine effort to control population growth in those countries to within what the resources of that nation can properly care for then the flood of illegals into the US will continue.
Biden being the smart politician he is stepped back and let the GOP write an immigration bill that had a good chance to overcome judicial challenges but did so knowing that Orange Jesus ( don't forget to order the Orange Jesus Bible just $59.95) would never allow his spineless lap dogs in the House to bring the bill up for a vote.

 

[sailfish]

Biden being the smart politician he is

LMFAO.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Until there is a genuine effort to control population growth in those countries to within what the resources of that nation can properly care for then the flood of illegals into the US will continue.
Biden being the smart politician he is stepped back and let the GOP write an immigration bill that had a good chance to overcome judicial challenges but did so knowing that Orange Jesus ( don't forget to order the Orange Jesus Bible just $59.95) would never allow his spineless lap dogs in the House to bring the bill up for a vote.

 

[vantexan]

Until there is a genuine effort to control population growth in those countries to within what the resources of that nation can properly care for then the flood of illegals into the US will continue.
Biden being the smart politician he is stepped back and let the GOP write an immigration bill that had a good chance to overcome judicial challenges but did so knowing that Orange Jesus ( don't forget to order the Orange Jesus Bible just $59.95) would never allow his spineless lap dogs in the House to bring the bill up for a vote.

On what planet is any of this accurate? Sure not Earth.

 

[vantexan]

Ok.

Do you believe that God is sovereign over all. Creation ? I do.

Do you believe anything happens in God’s creation by mistake?

Do you?

I do not adhere to any polarizing or political labels.

God so loves the world.

You do believe that, no?

You don't adhere to having the conviction of your beliefs. You give generalities and always leave yourself wiggle room.

So when a woman aborts her baby that was God in control? He wanted that?

 

[Integrity]

You don't adhere to having the conviction of your beliefs. You give generalities and always leave yourself wiggle room.

So when a woman aborts her baby that was God in control? He wanted that?

You don't adhere to having the conviction of your beliefs. You give generalities and always leave yourself wiggle room.

Not true.

So when a woman aborts her baby that was God in control?

Yes.

He wanted that?

Did God want His son brutally tortured and murdered?

 

[vantexan]

Not true.

Yes.

Did God want His son brutally tortured and murdered?

There's a difference. God and Jesus made that choice. A baby doesn't get to. And we have free will. Every abortion is the result of human choices made. God didn't control it.

 

[bacha29]

On what planet is any of this accurate? Sure not Earth.

The planet is called Earth and recent United Nations report: Current global population 7.6 billion
2030: 8.6 billion
2050: 9.8 billion
2100 11.2 billion.
Bible thumpers (and don't forget to order your Orange Jesus bible) with nothing more than a GED and a preachers license might get up in front of his poorly educated flock and try to tell them that the planet's resources can provide for all of them without doing irreversible damage to it....a woefully unqualified opinion.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The planet is called Earth and recent United Nations report: Current global population 7.6 billion
2030: 8.6 billion
2050: 9.8 billion
2100 11.2 billion.
Bible thumpers (and don't forget to order your Orange Jesus bible) with nothing more than a GED and a preachers license might get up in front of his poorly educated flock and try to tell them that the planet's resources can provide for all of them without doing irreversible damage to it....a woefully unqualified opinion.

You’re probably right I think you should take the lead here and step off the Earth. After all, you don’t wanna do irreversible damage do you? You’re amazingly exclusive, all of the sudden for someone who has no problem with illegal immigration.

 

[Integrity]

There's a difference. God and Jesus made that choice.

Jesus asked out of it but yielded to God’s will.

A baby doesn't get to.

A baby must yield to God’s Sovereign will. God gives life and takes life.

And we have free will.

Not over life and death.

Every abortion is the result of human choices made.

God is absolutely sovereign over every human decision.

God didn't control it.

Ultimately He did.

 

[BrownFlush]

God is absolutely sovereign over every human decision.

Tell us more Calvin... how does God do that?

 

[bacha29]

You’re probably right I think you should take the lead here and step off the Earth. After all, you don’t wanna do irreversible damage do you? You’re amazingly exclusive, all of the sudden for someone who has no problem with illegal immigration.

I never said I didn't have a problem with it. The problem I have is that the far more effective solution is to control the population growth in those countries that cannot support their current levels but it's not being implemented
The solution to having 3 kids and no way to feed clothe educate and house them is NOT having 3 more,
We've already seen that you can build a wall and desperate people will still find a way to go around it, over it, or under it.
Creating access to low cost birth control and a willingness to use it despite religious and cultural objections is the only way to slow illegal immigration in a meaningful way.

 

[Integrity]

Tell us more Calvin... how does God do that?

He holds the world on it’s axis, he certainly can be over all humanity, not sure how He does but I believe this and put my faith in it.

You don’t believe God is sovereign over all creation?

 

[rod]

Why are so many men concerned about abortions? It's a womens thing. What if women decide men can or can't have a vasectomy? The world is overpopulated as it is.

 

[sailfish]

Creating access to low cost birth control and a willingness to use it despite religious and cultural objections is the only way to slow illegal immigration in a meaningful way.

No it's not. Cut all the welfare now and it will stop.

 

[sailfish]

Why are so many men concerned about abortions? It's a womens thing.

Why are men legally obligated to pay child support then?

What if women decide men can or can't have a vasectomy?

Apples and oranges.

The world is overpopulated as it is.

Globalist myth.

 

[Integrity]

Why are so many men concerned about abortions? It's a womens thing. What if women decide men can or can't have a vasectomy? The world is overpopulated as it is.

IMO the main reason for men’s concern is that abortion is a polarizing political issue and definitely one that can be a divisive topic.

 

[BrownFlush]

He holds the world on it’s axis, he certainly can be over all humanity, not sure how He does but I believe this and put my faith in it.

You don’t believe God is sovereign over all creation?

There is no doubt he is over all.
But, he has chose to limit himself and does not choose what human decisions will be as you infer.

 

[Next Day Err]

Why are so many men concerned about abortions? It's a womens thing. What if women decide men can or can't have a vasectomy? The world is overpopulated as it is.

Some men want to control a woman's entire sexuality. When she has sex, how she has sex, who she has sex with, what the sex is for (pleasure or procreation)... But because they can't pull off this feat of control these men try the next best thing; they want to control her reproductive healthcare. The moral panic of abortion rights is bull.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Some men want to control a woman's entire sexuality. When she has sex, how she has sex, who she has sex with, what the sex is for (pleasure or procreation)... But because they can't pull off this feat of control these men try the next best thing; they want to control her reproductive healthcare. The moral panic of abortion rights is bull.

Yeah, we’re really controlling them when they have kids Seems to be most guys would probably like some of these women to have abortion so they don’t have to pay this child support for 18 years.. trust me women are in control when they have a man’s offspring.