10 hours off dot violation

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

ive seen that the excess hours pay is forfeited by the driver depending where you are.

Huh?

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

non-CDL short-haul exception do not have to keep a log book. Though the company must keep accurate and true time records for 6 months showing: 1) the time the driver reports for duty each day; 2) the total number of hours the driver is on duty each day; 3) the time the driver is released from duty each day; and 4) the total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with Section 395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.

Again short haul exemption.

Have never passed one in a package car. I'd have to look up if we are required to.

And again... short haul exemption.
"The 30-minute break rule is mandatory unless you qualify for an exemption to it. For example, all short-haul drivers who operate within a 150 air mile radius of their starting location are exempt, as well as all non-CDL drivers who operate within a 150 air mile radius of their starting location."

They are not CDL holders. They are Non-CDL driver's and not required by DOT to take random drug tests.

Does UPS make some driver (like air drivers) follow DOT regulations when they don't have to? Absolutely but we as package car driver are subject to DOT regulations and have to have a DOT card.

Look and see if it mentions you must be off the clock within 12 hours if there is no log book...

 

[542thruNthru]

Look and see if it mentions you must be off the clock within 12 hours if there is no log book...

 

[UnionStrong]

non-CDL short-haul exception do not have to keep a log book. Though the company must keep accurate and true time records for 6 months showing: 1) the time the driver reports for duty each day; 2) the total number of hours the driver is on duty each day; 3) the time the driver is released from duty each day; and 4) the total time for the preceding 7 days in accordance with Section 395.8(j)(2) for drivers used for the first time or intermittently.

Again short haul exemption.

Have never passed one in a package car. I'd have to look up if we are required to.

And again... short haul exemption.
"The 30-minute break rule is mandatory unless you qualify for an exemption to it. For example, all short-haul drivers who operate within a 150 air mile radius of their starting location are exempt, as well as all non-CDL drivers who operate within a 150 air mile radius of their starting location."

They are not CDL holders. They are Non-CDL driver's and not required by DOT to take random drug tests.

Does UPS make some driver (like air drivers) follow DOT regulations when they don't have to? Absolutely but we as package car driver are subject to DOT regulations and have to have a DOT card.

And I was told to always drive in to a weigh station that was open, they waved us thru, but we had to go in.

 

[542thruNthru]

And I was told to always drive in to a weigh station that was open, they waved us thru, but we had to go in.

I believe our guys going up to Ontario have to go through the weight station. I'd have to check though.

 

[UnionStrong]

Just another Neanderthal package car driver who does not have the intellectual capacity to express themselves in more than one word.

Told ya! Wrong

 

[Coldworld]

That’s what I thought too. Off property “drive time” is the only thing that matters?
Knew these 22.4 positions were dumb af. All the 22.4 people at my building never work inside, that I know of.

You can thank daddy Denis for that one…

 

[Coldworld]

And I was told to always drive in to a weigh station that was open, they waved us thru, but we had to go in.

Package cars??

 

[UnionStrong]

Package cars??

Yes. They just waved us thru. But if it was open, as a commercial vehicle with a DOT number we were told to go in.

 

[Jones]

Yes. They just waved us thru. But if it was open, as a commercial vehicle with a DOT number we were told to go in.

Never heard that one. We had routes that drove by weight stations every day and no one ever said peep.

 

[Coldworld]

Never heard that one. We had routes that drove by weight stations every day and no one ever said peep.

I have seen them pull box trucks into the weight stations before

 

[Bud Dog]

Told ya! Wrong

If you actually look at the page 452thrNthru posted it is for ”interstate” drivers. Which for you pea brain means crossing state lines. 99.999% of package car drivers are ”intrastate” which means they only drive in one state. Different set of rules.

 

[UnionStrong]

If you actually look at the page 452thrNthru posted it is for ”interstate” drivers. Which for you pea brain means crossing state lines. 99.999% of package car drivers are ”intrastate” which means they only drive in one state. Different set of rules.

Wrong

 

[UnionStrong]

If you actually look at the page 452thrNthru posted it is for ”interstate” drivers. Which for you pea brain means crossing state lines. 99.999% of package car drivers are ”intrastate” which means they only drive in one state. Different set of rules.

Read the last paragraph, pin head.

 

[Yeet]

If you actually look at the page 452thrNthru posted it is for ”interstate” drivers. Which for you pea brain means crossing state lines. 99.999% of package car drivers are ”intrastate” which means they only drive in one state. Different set of rules.

I’m a feeder driver so my opinion probably doesn’t matter but it makes no difference for us if you are inter or intrastate. If there is a weigh station, and it’s open and you don’t have a pre pass, your ass better go in.

 

[Buffet Master]

I have seen them pull box trucks into the weight stations before

If a box truck has air brakes then the operator of the vehicle needs a minimum of a class b license and absolutely must go through a weigh station.

 

[UnionStrong]

If a box truck has air brakes then the operator of the vehicle needs a minimum of a class b license and absolutely must go through a weigh station.

I drove a 24 ft box with air brakes, no special license

 

[Jones]

I drove a 24 ft box with air brakes, no special license

As long as it's under 26,000lbs you don't need a CDL.

 

[542thruNthru]

If you actually look at the page 452thrNthru posted it is for ”interstate” drivers. Which for you pea brain means crossing state lines. 99.999% of package car drivers are ”intrastate” which means they only drive in one state. Different set of rules.

First off. It's 542thruNthru.

Pretty sure I have tons of boxes from different states and even countries in my package car.

 

[UnionStrong]

If you actually look at the page 452thrNthru posted it is for ”interstate” drivers. Which for you pea brain means crossing state lines. 99.999% of package car drivers are ”intrastate” which means they only drive in one state. Different set of rules.