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wayfair

swollen member
Melania would be the hottest first lady ever!

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at 46, she's rockin!!!!
 

wayfair

swollen member
Chances are they started far earlier than that. Think about the hate that has to be stirred in a person to actually cut another person's head off with a hunting knife. That fury doesn't happen over night.

seen a vid of a syrian rebel who beheaded a 10-12 year old.... truly sickening
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Chances are they started far earlier than that. Think about the hate that has to be stirred in a person to actually cut another person's head off with a hunting knife. That fury doesn't happen over night.
It really isnt' about when they started their terror campaign. It is more about when did the opportunity come about for them to start it. I dont agree with bush going to war in Iraq in the first place but you cant just cut out when its convenient.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
Whaaat? Are you like the last UNinformed person on this board regarding the troop withdrawal in Iraq? Are you also the last person on this board who doesnt understand the difference between Sunni and Shia factions in both Iraq and Syria?

Lets review.

1) President Bush signed the withdrawal agreement with the new Iraqi government establishing the date and year of our withdrawal. Bush also signed an agreement to the number of troops to be left in the country.
U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2) Isis had many origins, but NONE more prevalent than the RELEASING of Abu Bakr Al-baghdadi from CAMP BUCCA, a military prison in Iraq where we had the Leader of ISIS for almost two years in custody, but for some reason still not explained by the BUSH administration or GEORGE W. BUSH, he was unconditionally released despite being a known terrorist with ties to al qaeda and other groups in the region. Bush signed an order releasing him from custody and in less than two years after his release, he became the head honcho of ISIS. (note: if you are fox news, you throw out some bullcrap that he was released in 2009, but the record is clear he was released in 2004 by GW BUSH)
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3) At the same time that we had al baghdadi in custody, the BUSH administration was flying into Iraq, tens of billions of dollars in shrink wrapped 100 dollar bills on pallets and then releasing this money to "independent Iraqi contractors" without security clearance and this money turned over to them and the simply drove off with the money and disappeared with it. But, was this just a giant heist of american money or something a little more cynical? Ask yourself, how does a man, who was in a US military prison for almost two years, who was broke when he was released and all of his friends dead, could possibly organize the largest terror organization in the world and have the finances to operate it? Maybe, this cash was to be used for something a little more cynical than propping up the iraqi currency?
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How the US sent $12bn in cash to Iraq. And watched it vanish

4) meanwhile, In Syria, the US under BUSH tried to destablize the Syrian government by arming SUNNI rebel factions in Syria. This program was increased time after time, with billions of dollars in ARMS sent to these fighters and a civil war started. AS the government of Syria fought back and escalated the fighting, more and more weapons were sent over there. Carrying over to the OBAMA administration, our CIA was operating in the region in this proxy war and set up shop in Libya, buying up weapons and arms and funneling them to syrian rebels. This also led to the deaths of our ambassador.

These rebels, once armed, were called "al-Nusra Front", and presto, you have Baghdadi and an armed militia and billions of dollars to operate it.


ISIS was started long before president Obama took office. Obama had nothing to do with any of these events that led to the rise of the largest terror group in the world.

You need to ask yourself, why was baghdadi released by GW BUSH?

TOS.


You read all that and you post all that and fail to realize that obama has continued the same polices that bush did over and over. Not to mention clinton was right there with him. The middle east hasn't improved under obama and clinton. It got worse. Remember he famous red line quote.
 

bottomups

Bad Moon Risen'
It really isnt' about when they started their terror campaign. It is more about when did the opportunity come about for them to start it. I dont agree with bush going to war in Iraq in the first place but you cant just cut out when its convenient.
So are you in favor of keeping our troops there for 1500 years?
 

bbsam

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It really isnt' about when they started their terror campaign. It is more about when did the opportunity come about for them to start it. I dont agree with bush going to war in Iraq in the first place but you cant just cut out when its convenient.
We don't. As Powell said, "You break it, you own it." We broke it. We own it. Whether we occupy the land for a 50 years is another matter. We really don'thave the ability to put it back together. They're going to have to figure it out, we're going to have to deal with it, and hopefully we won't insert ourselves in stupid unnecessary wars in the future.
 

Jkloc420

Do you need an air compressor or tire gauge
We don't. As Powell said, "You break it, you own it." We broke it. We own it. Whether we occupy the land for a 50 years is another matter. We really don'thave the ability to put it back together. They're going to have to figure it out, we're going to have to deal with it, and hopefully we won't insert ourselves in stupid unnecessary wars in the future.
Do you know how long we were in germany after ww2?
 
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