Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
With interest rates going up, and people having just bought homes at the top of the market, there will definitely be a bubble that bursts. Although it could be more severe regionally.
2023 contract
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govols019
You smell that?
Surely common sense would tell them that's a load of crap.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Some people will read that and think we failed if we don’t get every single thing on there.
Pullman Brown
Well-Known Member
I mean every proposal on there I’ve heard from somebody in the Union basically verbally or on this forum. The leadership is just doing their job listening to the membership right?!? No harm in pushing the envelope!
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Sure but that particular PDF would be us getting 100% of everything we want, that is not how negotiations work. Some people do not understand that. nothing wrong with the proposals in and of themselves.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I knew it was fake when I saw free socks.
401k is a scam.
Jim Rockford
Well-Known Member
Read up until i saw the phrase "gender identity" promptly closed it and never read another word.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
Well we have some folks here who can’t decide if they’re male or female.
FozziesDeliveries
Well-Known Member
I don't do facebook, but found the link another way. I personally like seeing where things come from so here is atleast one avenue pointing to it.
Rank-and-File UPSers Share Sample Contract Proposals
Rank-and-File UPSers Share Sample Contract Proposals
What about the turkey
?ManInBrown
Well-Known Member
Been giving this a lot of thought. IMO with this next contract, FT wages should be the least of our concern. Do we deserve yearly bumps of at least $1. Absolutely but there are many other problems that need to be addressed first. Subcontracting in feeders. PVD’s in package. I’m not very knowledgeable about the other package problems because I’ve been gone for too long now. Wages should be the last item on the menu. Even for someone like me who’s not a fan of OT, I almost have to not try, to make $2000 a week. Very little effort needed to hit that number weekly. And truthfully not hard to hit $2200 a week. I think I’m paid fairly. Others might not agree and I respect that. Package is a different story. Just talking about feeders. I’d be happy with $1 per year and COLA. Many more pressing issues to be dealt with IMO.
And as a feeder driver, would you strike for a/c in pkg cars? Would people in Boston? MN? Utah?
Again, I submit-all of the things mentioned are ALREADY HERE.
I think most folks won't lose $2K PER WEEK FOR A PART-TIMER.
Status quo would be fine for me. Change nothing....I'm good.
ManInBrown
Well-Known Member
Of course I would strike. We are one company. A strike is a strike. I would never cross the line under any circumstances. If leadership says there is a work stoppage, there’s a work stoppage.
Thebrownblob
Well-Known Member
I thought you were retiring?
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Our Union Hall is having a proposal meeting OCT 9th.
I suggest everybody interested attend...I have attended these meeting since the early 90's...Only about 50 members and maybe 10 even bothered to summit proposals in the 2018 meeting. Back in 1997 our Union Hall was packed well over 200 members and everybody summited.
Truth is that the O'Brien team already knows our problems and issues associated with the last contract, they are all veterans and been around the park with the Company.
I fully expect the Company to test the new O'Brien team, much in the lines of the one day strike with Carey back in February 1994 over them rising the weight limits to 150 lbs. Some of the decision making in Atlanta is questionable, it appears that they are mimicking the other couriers without thought or reason. Somebody makes a decision at these board meetings and all the Yes men and women better agree, communication between the ground operations and the higher ups is non existent.
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Part timers are a non factor and never have been...they will get their better starting raise, the Company has already admitted that with them raising them in different regions. This Contract will be settled by the Full Timers plain and simple.
I usually do attend these meetings and will try to again. But I'm also working Saturdays and sundays are my only days to make things happen in life .
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Um, no, it isn't a proposal.
I got the same email, it said specifically that it was in fact, Facebook crap.
