Brownslave688
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We can't even hold out for retro checks. There's no way enough people have the guts to ever strike again.
It's all downhill from here boys and girls.
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It's all downhill from here boys and girls.
hondo
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There are currently 22.3 shifters @ CACH (I think I have a pretty good guess as to how/why that is; but it's still conjecture that I'll leave out for now). As part of this deal the % of 22.3s in the yard is supposed to go down drastically; if/when most of them bid out of that job, it disappears. The total % of FT non-CDL & 22.3 in the yard is supposed to end up being lower.
And yes, it should provide work for drivers who can't go back out on the road for some reason (like DOT medical).
The pay is halfway between 22.3 & feeder. So either feeders who bid 'down' to that accept a $3 wage cut (if my math is right)(just like a pkg driver takes a pay cut when bidding to 22.3), or 22.3s bid 'up' to $3 more.
Possible downsides that I can guess at:
- Potentially there will be fewer 'shift only' feeder jobs.
- Since they're not DOT, no 14/10 hour restrictions.
- When a 22.3 shifter job "sunsets", will a different 22.3 job be created to maintain the total #?
Edit: this is also supposed to keep the company from holding all the prime daytime bids for 22.3/non-CDL.
What do you all think?
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hondo
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I have a feeling there's a pretty good number of low seniority PT that have only remained with the company to get that check. Anywhere between about 1,000 to 1,800 hours, potentially.
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upschuck
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They will pay you too much, and then want more than the paycheck returned(taxes and deductions).
I can't believe this garbage contract passed. At a time when the economy is cruising along and the company has never been doing better, we make concessions. Unreal. We sent a message to the company that they can do whatever they want now. 705 has never been weaker. I'm ashamed of Hoffa and ashamed of my local 705 leadership. Truly the beginning of the end is starting to come into view for Union power at UPS.
Atomic_Smurf
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Concessionary contracts are going to be the new normal as insurance premiums continue to skyrocket by way of the Democrats price-gouging legalization healthcare bill. The only decisions our negotiators will have to make is where to give in next.
hondo
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Thank you 710. It was announced yesterday, and be phased in slowly, but 705 PTers will also be getting 25 hours for vacations (not just their option week).
Atomic_Smurf
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We didn't lose anything to private sector profit. We lost it to Democrat legislation. UPS is paying more in pay & benefits then ever. The missing portion of our earnings is being loaded onto a boat bound for Boom Town D.C.
upschuck
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It is not all the dems fault, open your mind
Can't we just blame,Obama? He was so gung ho,on healthcare......Im done talking about it. I delcare an impasse.
Atomic_Smurf
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How much of ObamaCare should we accredit to the GOP & other non-Democrats that tried to "stand in the way"?
upschuck
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Although I don't like the ACA, it is not all about Obamacare. Tunnel vision is not your friend.
Atomic_Smurf
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At the beginning of negotiations both sides of the table pointed to the ACA as the cause of major changes & "creative solutions". C'mon & just admit the "party of the working man" screwed the working man.
upschuck
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They all do. Take the blinders off.
710 steward
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As opposed to the GOP?? They all serve special interest groups and green paper with George Washington on them.
scisector9
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So 710 members out there we are the last ones left....
What are your predictions on the vote? Will 705 passing their contact help or hurt us if we vote no again?
As stated previously retro pay not being guaranteed was brought up several times on that call. Major bully tactic. Time will tell I suppose.
Two days of hell plus a couple weeks of minor hell to go.
Cheers and happy holidays!
What are your predictions on the vote? Will 705 passing their contact help or hurt us if we vote no again?
As stated previously retro pay not being guaranteed was brought up several times on that call. Major bully tactic. Time will tell I suppose.
Two days of hell plus a couple weeks of minor hell to go.
Cheers and happy holidays!
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