8:00pm rule?

[soberups]

I can endure the pain of missed stops for a lot longer than my supervisor can endure the pain of explaining those missed stops to his boss on the conference call.

I dont relish the idea of service failures but sometimes the iron hammer of missed stops is the only tool we have to beat the stupidity out of our management people and force them to start making rational dispatch decisions.

 

[OLDMAN3]

You guys need to get half your center on the 9.5 list and start collecting triple time. 10 to 11 hours per day was the norm in my center till a bunch of us got paid, and then twice the drivers started filing. Now I go out with 8 1/2 hrs planned nearly every day

 

[OLDMAN3]

No you don't.

So, do you think it is ethically justifiable to deprive driver's kids the few hours a day they get to spend with their dad/mom? Will you tow the company line and defend completely over-dispatching drivers? Do you think management is morally accountable for these actions?

 

[CHALLY9TX]

We dont have an 8:00 rule here but at 9:00 I am done delivering and I head in with all remaining stops sheeted as missed, regardless of what management tells me.

Is it your own choice stop at 9? Or is it something you've been told by management?


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[TooTechie]

Doin the same here. One of our newer cover drivers gotta warning letter yesterday for punching out at 8 on the dot. He had an eta of 7

What was the warning letter for? and he better have grieved it.

 

[soberups]

Is it your own choice stop at 9? Or is it something you've been told by management?


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My choice.

Im not walking up dark driveways in the country or knocking on doors and waking people up after 9:00 at night. Its not safe, its not professional and its not service.

 

[zygadlo86]

Ughh..I am a pt air driver who takes early ams and then helps out with air. If start time for drivers moves to 8, they won't need my help with the 10:30 air. This makes me worry.

 

[AKCoverMan]

The point is, no one should still be on road at 8pm, except during Peak.


Resident know-it-all.

We have a satellite about an hour away from our center that originates six cars. Drivers there don't start till 1015 and have 60-90 min loading own cars. Needless to say they are rarely in before 2000.

If I cover out there I often don't get back to main center till 2130 or later as I have the added drive back from the satellite.

 

[oldngray]

I can endure the pain of missed stops for a lot longer than my supervisor can endure the pain of explaining those missed stops to his boss on the conference call.

I dont relish the idea of service failures but sometimes the iron hammer of missed stops is the only tool we have to beat the stupidity out of our management people and force them to start making rational dispatch decisions.

As long as everything gets delivered and nothing shows up on reports management has to explain nothing will every get fixed. Eventually you just have to take a stand and let service suffer before anyone will pay attention.

 

[Brownified]

We start at 8:40. I punch out at 6:30 every night. 90 percent if the drivers are already done when I get there. This might be why I have never heard of this curfew. I guess I'm lucky after reading all these posts.

 

[ChickenLegs]

So, do you think it is ethically justifiable to deprive driver's kids the few hours a day they get to spend with their dad/mom? Will you tow the company line and defend completely over-dispatching drivers? Do you think management is morally accountable for these actions?

I see your point, but everyone knows what they signed up for. This is nothing new...

 

[sigreq]

What was the warning letter for? and he better have grieved it.

They said we are to be off before 8, no exceptions. They said he spent 7 minutes at the clerk counter, and punched out at 8. He's getting his 30 in he's not gonna grieve it.

 

[Back first]

I see your point, but everyone knows what they signed up for. This is nothing new...

We didn't sign up to work til 9:00. This is not peak. Stop being a company man.

 

[soberups]

I see your point, but everyone knows what they signed up for. This is nothing new...

I didn't sign up to risk get shot at 9:30 at night by a nervous homeowner because my management team was too stupid to dispatch enough routes.

I am perfectly willing to work 60 hours a week during peak season but there comes a point where it is no longer appropriate or acceptable to be knocking on peoples doors and delivering packages. 9:00 at night is that point.

 

[tacken]

AMEN BRO

I didn't sign up to risk get shot at 9:30 at night by a nervous homeowner because my management team was too stupid to dispatch enough routes.

I am perfectly willing to work 60 hours a week during peak season but there comes a point where it is no longer appropriate or acceptable to be knocking on peoples doors and delivering packages. 9:00 at night is that point.

AMEN BROTHER

 

[CHALLY9TX]

I didn't sign up to risk get shot at 9:30 at night by a nervous homeowner because my management team was too stupid to dispatch enough routes.

I am perfectly willing to work 60 hours a week during peak season but there comes a point where it is no longer appropriate or acceptable to be knocking on peoples doors and delivering packages. 9:00 at night is that point.

You haven't opted in?


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[joeboodog]

I see your point, but everyone knows what they signed up for. This is nothing new...

That may be so today. However when I started 27 years ago you only worked past 7:00 at peak. Now if you get in before 8:00 you think "Wow, I'm in early. " Used to be you only had 10 hour days during peak now they are the norm.

 

[Brown stains]

Today's PCM they told us the 8pm curfew was no longer in our building
Sup said he was tired of being on conference calls explaining all the miss packages coming into building

 

[728ups]

You guys need to get half your center on the 9.5 list and start collecting triple time. 10 to 11 hours per day was the norm in my center till a bunch of us got paid, and then twice the drivers started filing. Now I go out with 8 1/2 hrs planned nearly every day

same here. We have had 5 different driver meetings with the Labor manager over Excessive OT (taking advantage of the new language in the contract) and only the Runners,the scared and the stupid get loaded down now

 

[Mr. Six Figures]

I posted a thread on 800pm. I didn't know there was one currently open. In the last 2 weeks there has been a lot of pressure for 9.5 and 800 o'clock curfew here in MA. WTF is going on!!!##!!!

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