9.5 Arbitration decision - Or - Why clear contract language is important

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Curious how all this will play out. Weather the union screwed up with the usage of continuous in the language or not. Anyone ever question why the excessive overtime “protection” starts at 9.5, an hour and half of overtime already included? If anyone knows the answer I’d love to hear it. Why isn’t there an 8.5 list?

I’ve said it before, the only way this company will reduce overtime is to get them to pay pension contributions for every hour worked, not just the first eight.

They screw up with the vague language. And it's not just with the 9.5 debacle.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I have a number or stewards begging me to take over right now.

I will do it after I’m 100% sure I do not need this job anymore.

Wow.

And all of these other members are going to start voting.... when they think

the company isn't watching. SMH

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Anyone ever question why the excessive overtime “protection” starts at 9.5, an hour and half of overtime already included? If anyone knows the answer I’d love to hear it. Why isn’t there an 8.5 list?

It use to be 10 hrs....

 

[MyTripisCut]

It use to be 10 hrs....

Thank you.

 

[burrheadd]

It use to be 10 hrs....

Good job getting it reduced to 9.5

SMH

 

[Bubblehead]

I’ve said it before, the only way this company will reduce overtime is to get them to pay pension contributions for every hour worked, not just the first eight.

Nope, it's getting ready to start soon....as soon as the Company gets their 25% of 22.4 "hybrid drivers" qualified.

They will be used with staggered start times to eliminated every hour of OT for top scale "RPCD's" possible, at a better than 50% hourly rate discount.

Seriously, why wouldn't they???

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Nope, it's getting ready to start soon....as soon as the Company gets their 25% of 22.4 "hybrid drivers" qualified.

They will be used with staggered start times to eliminated every hour of OT for top scale "RPCD's" possible, at a better than 50% hourly rate discount.

Seriously, why wouldn't they???

Same reason why they keep early progression drivers on layoff while having top rate drivers racking up the OT.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Nope, it's getting ready to start soon....as soon as the Company gets their 25% of 22.4 "hybrid drivers" qualified.

They will be used with staggered start times to eliminated every hour of OT for top scale "RPCD's" possible, at a better than 50% hourly rate discount.

Seriously, why wouldn't they???

You are forgetting one thing. The newbies don't stay

 

[Bubblehead]

Same reason why they keep early progression drivers on layoff while having top rate drivers racking up the OT.

Not here.
We have plenty of top senior drivers willing to take off as many days as the Company will give them....

....and the Company will be giving them out wholesale, while 25% of the drivers on road Tues-Fri are paid half of what RPCD's would.

What else made this latest contract attractive for UPS?

 

[Bubblehead]

You are forgetting one thing. The newbies don't stay

Just like part timers, and as they turn over, they make $20.50/hr with no vacation for a year.

Maybe the Company likes it that way?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Just like part timers, and as they turn over, they make $20.50/hr with no vacation for a year.

Maybe the Company likes it that way?

The union likes it that way

 

[Bubblehead]

The union likes it that way

More initiation fees.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

More initiation fees.

Yes and pension money that won't be paid out to the members because the quit before they was vested

 

[Boywondr]

Yes and pension money that won't be paid out to the members because the quit before they was vested

Say it isnt so!

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Say it isnt so!

There the plan. It makes the company and the union Happy

 

[Boywondr]

There the plan. It makes the company and the union Happy

That's all that matters.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That's all that matters.

Doesn't matter about the Rank and file anymore

 

[Poop Head]

Just like part timers, and as they turn over, they make $20.50/hr with no vacation for a year.

Maybe the Company likes it that way?

Costs time and money to "train" new people.

 

[Bubblehead]

Costs time and money to "train" new people.

Nope, we have ORION now.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

The union likes it that way

don't let the robust union man...see this one