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newfie

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From 2016

Clinton 65.8 mil votes
Trump 62.9 mil votes

Democratic senate votes 45.2 mil votes
Republican senate votes 39.3 mil votes

here's what you're dancing around - source harvard harris poll

According to the poll, 69% of the respondents said ICE should not be disbanded; 31% said the immigration enforcement arm should be disbanded.

The poll also asked, “Do you think we need stricter or looser enforcement of our immigration laws?”

To this question, 70% of the people answered that the United States should have “stricter” enforcement of its immigration laws; 30% said “looser” enforcement.
 

It will be fine

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yea i suppose , once you release them they never come back for their trial or the deportation so I suppose there is a cost savings.
99% appearance rate for court dates with counseling or ankle bracelets. Better outcomes, lower costs and no baby jails. Where are you getting lost?
 

It will be fine

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here's what you're dancing around - source harvard harris poll

According to the poll, 69% of the respondents said ICE should not be disbanded; 31% said the immigration enforcement arm should be disbanded.

The poll also asked, “Do you think we need stricter or looser enforcement of our immigration laws?”

To this question, 70% of the people answered that the United States should have “stricter” enforcement of its immigration laws; 30% said “looser” enforcement.
One poll for one question. Most polls show voters trust democrats on the issue of immigration as a whole. They trust the GOP on illegal immigration. We are seeing the results of the GOP in charge. Those results involve baby jails. Most people don’t like imprisoning children.
 

vantexan

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One poll for one question. Most polls show voters trust democrats on the issue of immigration as a whole. They trust the GOP on illegal immigration. We are seeing the results of the GOP in charge. Those results involve baby jails. Most people don’t like imprisoning children.
Obama did worse.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
It’s basically a fact now that higher voter turnout favors democrats. That’s why republicans work to suppress votes. All indicators point toward more citizens agree with democratic policy. Most polling on individual policies show a majority of the public agree with democratic policies. That’s why the republican repeal and replace of the ACA failed, the tax cut is wildly unpopular, the big republican position of state mandated childbirth by the overturn of Roe is only supported by 30% of citizens.
:bsbullf:

That's so full of :poop: I can smell it across the Internet.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Compelling counterpoint, I’m convinced. Why present an actual rebuttal when you can just cry Fake News! This is why conservatives are losing the public debate of ideas.
oh yeah, it's much better to counter your made up BS by responding with something I made up too.
I will stick with pointing out BSers myself.
 

newfie

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One poll for one question. Most polls show voters trust democrats on the issue of immigration as a whole. They trust the GOP on illegal immigration. We are seeing the results of the GOP in charge. Those results involve baby jails. Most people don’t like imprisoning children.


but but but but but . god you libs beg for an argument
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
That’s the answer you give when you have no evidence to support your side of an argument. It’s ok to lose an argument, it’s pretty weak to just cry about how everything is BS.
I stick by my assessment!
I went back and read your post again and it's still just a bunch of cobbled together BS.
It’s basically a fact now that higher voter turnout favors democrats.
That’s why republicans work to suppress votes.
All indicators point toward more citizens agree with democratic policy.
Most polling on individual policies show a majority of the public agree with democratic policies.

That’s why the republican repeal and replace of the ACA failed,

the tax cut is wildly unpopular,

the big republican position of state mandated childbirth by the overturn of Roe is only supported by 30% of citizens.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
That’s the answer you give when you have no evidence to support your side of an argument. It’s ok to lose an argument, it’s pretty weak to just cry about how everything is BS.
I never saw an argument ... Maybe you can point out your argument.
Anyway, check in with floridays if you want someone to grace your BS with a response in kind.
 

It will be fine

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king makeitupata where did you get lost? notice how i list a source its something new you may want to try when you make up your outrageous claims.

Report: 90% of illegals skip immigration court appearances; 135,000 will go missing
Reading isn’t your strong suit, huh? I said with counseling or ankle bracelets. Obama ran a pilot program where asylum seekers were given legal counseling and 99.9% showed up for their court dates. Got anymore irrelevant articles from 4 years ago to back up your nonsensical point?
 

newfie

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Reading isn’t your strong suit, huh? I said with counseling or ankle bracelets. Obama ran a pilot program where asylum seekers were given legal counseling and 99.9% showed up for their court dates. Got anymore irrelevant articles from 4 years ago to back up your nonsensical point?

i'm fine with you showing your source for such an outrageous claim King Makeitupita?
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
I spent over an hour researching this and the percent is 75% as best I can tell.

Itzy continues to throw up this red herring of some pilot program where the participants were cherry picked because it appeared the participants would report back for the court date.
then the participants were coached and coddled through the process.
Itzy wants to present this as a viable alternative to support catch and release.

I would have dropped this pretence a long time ago but she keeps throwing it out there.
 

PT Stewie

"Big Fella"
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