Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
I don't accept 'life' as a relevant criteria.
Consciousness or a sentient being.
Abortion
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Consciousness or a sentient being.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
Define "life" and maybe the question will answer itself.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Sperm alone meets the scientific definition of life. So frankly I don't know what the point of your post was.
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
Is the baby living? Does growth start at conception? Sperm + egg =s conception=s baby?
That's my point.
If remedies to abort a baby at any stage stops the fundamental growth of the child at any stage then: if we are able to kill the living, growing child at any stage it's obvious to me that it was alive.
Is that what you're asking me?
Looks like NY now has different ideas about what a living human being is...at any stage of being alive.
Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Which was to a great extent of my post ... 'life' is not a relevant criteria.
A better threshold, in my opinion, is 'that point where the life form achieves sentience.'
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
So you think the morning after pill is murder?
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Frankie's Friend
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"Sentience" is who's eyes?
Ours or God's eyes?
If you can prove to me where the soul or spirit of a human being comes from when conception occurs and where it goes after the human being dies then I would say that you can define "life" as it pertains to humans.
Until that time I, personally, rely on faith that God creates human being, gives them "life", and is the author of their existence.
Nothing will ever change my mind on that.
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Frankie's Friend
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I'm not versed in what that pill actually does. Can you explain it to me accurately and honestly?
If the morning after pill aborts a living human from day one I would say it is murder.
Does that seem clear?
If the morning after pill is used because people dont like to use condoms then I would say that is a poor choice.
I hate to be a party pooper but since I'm not in feeders but just got up to check on letting the dog out so if you can give me a pass for a few hrs I'm going back to bed, thankful my electricity is still on.
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Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Interesting little tangent that flared up there ... was it suppose to have any relevance to whether 'sentience' is an acceptable criteria to determine that point where a being's awareness of itself and sensation and memories of pain?
I don't think 'alive' is a valid criteria and whilst 'sentience' seems like it might be better, it may require multiple additional criteria.
I would expect there are 'better' criteria.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Depends how early it's taken.
It can stop a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus.
No
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Frankie's Friend
Guest
Being aware of itself is a tough one. How do you qualify that if you cant define the state of existence?
I'm not that smart and without being demeaning I seriously doubt that anyone here can either.
Good night friends. I appreciate you.
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
We will all know the answers at the end , let’s just pray that we have the right answers come your time to be judged !!
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
Kill it
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
Are you out of your EFn mind ????
Indecisi0n
Well-Known Member
God bless you .
If the unrestricted right to an abortion late in the third trimester becomes a standard part of the Democratic party platform, I’ll 100% vote for every Republican on the ballot next year. This is 
ing madness.
ing madness.
It will be fine
Well-Known Member
This sounds like hysteria. What set of circumstances would lead to an abortion rather than a birth once the pregnancy is in the 32+ week stage? That’s standard premature range, I don’t see many doctors advising abortion at that point absent some serious potential for death of the mother otherwise.If the unrestricted right to an abortion late in the third trimester becomes a standard part of the Democratic party platform, I’ll 100% vote for every Republican on the ballot next year. This is
That’s the point. It seems the proposed legislation would lower the bar from physician advisement to physician consent upon the request of the mother. All the way up to the 40th week of pregnancy.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Covemastah
Hoopah drives the boat Chief !!
Adoption !!!
