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Frankie's Friend

Guest
so if the mommy and daddy are not religious its ok to deny her the abortion?
These jokers are always talking about "values". Her parents "values", etc.
What about the girl's "values"? Didnt she know that intercourse creates babies or did her valuing the sexual gratification over rule the consequences?
Did the boy tell her he'd pull out before it was too late and then just forget?
Value that.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
so if the mommy and daddy are not religious its ok to deny her the abortion?

No. It's her body and her life. I guess you think a 15 year old should have a child, drop out of school, and ruin her future just so you can get the satisfaction of satisfying your ideology.

Perhaps the Right Wing should support childcare and other social programs that would allow such a person to have the child, and still continue their education and life. But no, that would be socialist. You people (intentional) are horribly cruel in the sense that you claim to support life, but actually are willing to do nothing if someone actually decides to have a child instead of an abortion. It's incredibly hypocritical. You'll spend a whole day filling your yard with little white crosses, but you don't do crap to actually support children who actually get born. That's BS.

If she wants to have it, that's fine too. But if you've ever met a teenage mother, or known a family in that situation, it usually doesn't turn out well.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
No. It's her body and her life.

if so why did you only think it important to have an abortion if it was the child of religious parents? When did a minor get to make that decision?

if an 11 year old is pregnant does she have the same right to sneak behind her parents back?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
No. It's her body and her life. I guess you think a 15 year old should have a child, drop out of school, and ruin her future just so you can get the satisfaction of satisfying your ideology.

Perhaps the Right Wing should support childcare and other social programs that would allow such a person to have the child, and still continue their education and life. But no, that would be socialist. You people (intentional) are horribly cruel in the sense that you claim to support life, but actually are willing to do nothing if someone actually decides to have a child instead of an abortion. It's incredibly hypocritical. You'll spend a whole day filling your yard with little white crosses, but you don't do crap to actually support children who actually get born. That's BS.

If she wants to have it, that's fine too. But if you've ever met a teenage mother, or known a family in that situation, it usually doesn't turn out well.
What we want is a return to moral standards where a child is taught that having premarital sex is wrong, should never be considered. Of course that won't stop it from happening but there was a time when getting pregnant before marriage had a huge stigma attached to it. If we returned to such times then helping the relative few in those situations is far more doable than supporting hundreds of thousands who get pregnant every year. Of course you've never seen a situation that you don't love throwing money at. Of course we want that kid to grow up happy and healthy. But instead of giving people escape valves we should put the onus on them to take care of their child since it was their irresponsibility that caused it to happen. If abortions are illegal and the state isn't going to support you then most likely people will be much more responsible.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
What we want is a return to moral standards where a child is taught that having premarital sex is wrong, should never be considered. Of course that won't stop it from happening but there was a time when getting pregnant before marriage had a huge stigma attached to it. If we returned to such times then helping the relative few in those situations is far more doable than supporting hundreds of thousands who get pregnant every year. Of course you've never seen a situation that you don't love throwing money at. Of course we want that kid to grow up happy and healthy. But instead of giving people escape valves we should put the onus on them to take care of their child since it was their irresponsibility that caused it to happen.
If abortions are illegal and the state isn't going to support you then most likely people will be much more responsible.
That's the part of the Repugs platform I find repugnant.
DON'T LEGISLATE MORALITY ... IT'S JUST PLAIN STUPID AND NEVER WORKS.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
That's the part of the Repugs platform I find repugnant.
DON'T LEGISLATE MORALITY ... IT'S JUST PLAIN STUPID AND NEVER WORKS.
Who's legislating it? Morality begins at home, is taught, not forced. It's just doing the right thing is the accepted social norm. Putting personal gratification above all else has caused all kinds of problems.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Who's legislating it?
Morality begins at home, is taught, not forced.
It's just doing the right thing is the accepted social norm.
Putting personal gratification above all else has caused all kinds of problems.
Repugs and Dimwits
Agree
Accepted Social Norm - That means an individual is forced to comply with social norms or suffers castigation ... not freedom
For whom?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Repugs and Dimwits
Agree
Accepted Social Norm - That means an individual is forced to comply with social norms or suffers castigation ... not freedom
For whom?
We Christians are experiencing just that for trying to hold to our beliefs. I'll take most people believing something is wrong to do over most people believing anything goes as long as no one is physically hurt and it's between consenting adults. There was a time when most people got married relatively young, were virgins when they got married, and believed marriage was for life. Doing away with the social norms that premarital sex is unacceptable, that abortion is wrong, that being unfaithful is wrong, that divorce is wrong, has greatly weakened families and hasn't really improved our lives at all.
 

BigUnionGuy

Got the T-Shirt
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oldngray

nowhere special
ACLU suing over heartbeat abortion bill.

Expected knee jerk reaction from them.

They should change their name. All about liberal activism now instead of supposed civil liberties.
 
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